P-51's in movie "Empire of the Sun"

I think its a 108. Dern few Bestmanns around. Anyone know for sure?

It was in fact a Bestmann or derivative. The key is the fixed gear as the Bf
108 retracts. There are or were then several Bestmann's flying in Europe and
they were also then in production in Egypt as military trainers. Even more
recently the type was offered for sale as the Aeropony with a modern
horizontally opposed engine.

Thanks, John. I knew I'd be wrong.

v/r
Gordon

Let me urge you to get in touch with a museum to
arrange for the transfer of that "trash" so that it doesn't go into a
landfill when you're no longer around to enjoy it.

My garage is divided into "Give to San Diego Aerospace Museum" and "Give to my
kids". My kids are fully up to speed on what to do, no matter what Mrs. Tossit
tries to do. )

I would say the same to others in this newsgroup who have old "trash"
that might be valuable to the historical record.

absolutely! In fact, I would urge everyone here to go through their 'trash'
and see if there was anything they felt like letting go of, and send it to
their local air museum NOW. Besides, its a real charge to see some of your
former bits on display; until recently, the San Diego Aerospace Museum had my
Soviet flight gear and the stuff I brought out of Mogadishu on display - for
years I got comments on it.

v/r
Gordon
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USN SAR

Its always better to lose AN engine, than THE engine.

For an interesting story about flying in ground effect,
look for the remarks by the (NASA?) pilot who flew the Canadian flying
saucer.

I have a report on that testing - the sign off officer for the report was
Chuck Yeager! I keep forgetting to get him to sign it.

Great to see you, Mary.

yf
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Its always better to lose AN engine, than THE engine.

"quasi-lurk status."
Wow! Contageous?

Quent

nt (Krztalizer) wrote in message ...
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Also didn't Donald
Pleasence get shot after James Gardner crashed theirs in 'The Great Escape'?

I thought that was a Bucker Bu181 Bestmann (or a derivative), but I
might be wrong.

As Captain Tenneal would say, "Well, you're wrong." (Sticking my neck out
here) I think its a 108. Dern few Bestmanns around. Anyone know for sure?

Anyone know which movies this Bf108 was in?

http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/bf108.html

Errol Cavit | "I long for the day when we can match the Germans in the
sky, 'plane for 'plane. When that day dawns, Germany is beaten. We
know by experience that we can whack his land forces, tanks included,
any day of the week." Private L. A. Diamond, 23 NZ Batt, 1941

On 22 Mar 2004 16:02:10 GMT, nt (Krztalizer) wrote:

For an interesting story about flying in ground effect,
look for the remarks by the (NASA?) pilot who flew the Canadian flying
saucer.

I have a report on that testing - the sign off officer for the report was
Chuck Yeager! I keep forgetting to get him to sign it.

Great to see you, Mary.

Great to be able to stop by. The movers come tomorrow for the first
pass, which includes all the NASA stuff, the aerospace books, and the
models, plus all the other books and the bookshelves and the beads.
There's a little other furniture, too, but not much. Then they come
back on the first for everything else, which includes the heretofore
untouched kitchen.

I stop by usenet for an occasional reconnection with the world and
sanity. I keep thinking of all the military wives who moved from one
set of military housing to another, every three years and I don't feel
so bad about this little move. (The last time we moved, rather than
adding another house, was in 1972, you see.) Compared to PCSing, this
is nothing.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

I have some pictures in bound issues of "Impact" that show a bomb from a
leading plane hit the water and skip then penetrate the wing of the second
plane. Photos are from number three as number two goes into the palm trees and
the moored Japanese ship is left untouched.

-- Charlie Springer

Yes i believe it was in "Von Ryans express", it was in "633 sqdn", "mosquito
sqdn" these are the ones i know of!
regards. mark.
"Errol Cavit" wrote in message
om...
nt (Krztalizer) wrote in message
...
snip

Also didn't Donald
Pleasence get shot after James Gardner crashed theirs in 'The Great
Escape'?

I thought that was a Bucker Bu181 Bestmann (or a derivative), but I
might be wrong.

As Captain Tenneal would say, "Well, you're wrong." (Sticking my
neck out
here) I think its a 108. Dern few Bestmanns around. Anyone know for
sure?

Anyone know which movies this Bf108 was in?

http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com/bf108.html

Errol Cavit | "I long for the day when we can match the Germans in the
sky, 'plane for 'plane. When that day dawns, Germany is beaten. We
know by experience that we can whack his land forces, tanks included,
any day of the week." Private L. A. Diamond, 23 NZ Batt, 1941

On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:15:14 -0600 (CST), wrote:

The talk of the flyable 'real' 109s & Hispanos has me wondering. Are
there now or were there, 'recently', (30-or so years) not counting
Israel's postwar use, any flyable Czech Avia S99s, the 109s with the
Junkers Jumo? I've read they were they nastiest of 109 variations.

Weren't those the S.199s, rather? The S.99s being the Czech-built
Bf 109G-10s... (and the CS.99s, the Bf 109G-12s).

There used to be a very detailed page on the different Czech variants,
but it disappeared a few years ago. I think it was at
http://willowood.multimania.com/home.html (The Mule Index Home).

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The talk of the flyable 'real' 109s & Hispanos has me wondering. Are
there now or were there, 'recently', (30-or so years) not counting
Israel's postwar use, any flyable Czech Avia S99s, the 109s with the
Junkers Jumo? I've read they were they nastiest of 109 variations.


Israel had one aircraft aboard a transport that got siezed in 1948 in Cyprus or
Rhodes and wasn't released until about 1950. By then they had given up on the
few remaining ones they had. I am not sure if they flew this last one or not.

The Czechs started to get Soviet equipment in the late 1940's so I doubt they
had any flying for long after that.

If one could be had it would make a very cool warbird but it would take an even
cooler pilot to fly it.

John Dupre'