Is it easier now?

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:55:32 GMT, "Ed Majden"
wrote:

Why is the ANG being put down by so many?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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I'm not sure what time period you're talking about here, can you be more
specific because, in my opinion, the US has never had a "sloppy, mamma's boy
military"?

Mr. Kramer was referring to the 1st Marine Division that went from the
Kuwait border to east Baghdad in three weeks, "running and gunning" in
a manner that would have had Patton gibbering at the old folks' home.

You will find life more pleasant, and this newsgroup more manageable,
if you put Mr. Kramer in a kill-file.


all the best -- Dan Ford
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and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

ubject: Is it easier now?
From: (OXMORON1)
Date: 2/27/04 11:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Got a question for you Art.
Name a politian who became President and had served in the National Guard?

Down


Down





Clue Field Artillery



And he was a Democrat also



He said among other quotes "Never kick a fresh turd on a warm day."



Harry S Truman was the guy.

And IIRC he used influence to get elected Captain of his battery. The story
goes that he called afew favors too .

Rick Clark


Yeah a lot of politicians went into the Guard. Like Bush. I guess you disagree
with Powell.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

You will find life more pleasant, and this newsgroup more manageable,
if you put Mr. Kramer in a kill-file.


I don't kill file anyone, just choose to disregard their posts. In Kramer's
case, they're too comical and pathetic to ignore. I read his posts like someone
who's slowed down to look at a traffic accident.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote

We were trained to iron discipline and obedience to orders.

There were very few enlisted troops with high school diplomas, and those
commissioned sometimes only had a couple of years, and no degree in
WW#2.

The price of paid later for a sloppy momma's boy military is now well
documented. Sadly.

Not true. There were more people killed in WW#2 from accidents than
combat. The first thing that happened after Monty hit the beach in
Sicily, was a wave of US bombers out of Libya bombed the **** out of
them. I'd call that sloppy, and probably ****ing stupid.

Hey, what about Malmedy? It was bad enough that Pieper pulled the machine
gunning of PW's, but you also had the USAAF (inluding one raid by Art's
beloved B-26's) hit the town not once but *twice* while it was in allied
hands! Strangely, this would have been during the time when Art has
claimed
he was sent forward to man the trenches--now why would the USAAF have sent
a
bombadier forward to do that instead of manning his aircraft? One wonders
how proficient ol' Art really was at his specialty if that was the case...

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.

Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.


The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim we hit
Malmedy.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.


The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim
we hit
Malmedy.

You can do your own news search old fool.

I am a National Guard alumni.

Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.


The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim
we hit
Malmedy.

You can do your own news search old fool.

I am a National Guard alumni.


And you are a ****ing liar.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer