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I've used ExpressPCB where you layout your printed circuit on on your
computer (easy to use free software download) send it to them over the internet, and for $63 get three two sided circuit boards with plated thru holes. I've had and continue to have excellent service. Stu Fields From: Subject: More LED's - Again Date: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:02 AM To All: The steady decline in the cost of ultra-bright green LED's (now about two-bits each for a 100-piece baggie) has generated renewed interest in the bug-eyed LED nav lights I described on this Newsgroup a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, that renewed interest has lead to some renewed problems, one having to do with the lay-out of the circuit board, the other with its fabrication. But the most serious problem has to do with the fact that ham radio operators learn to solder shortly after birth, or even before... according to some. Along with the ability to solder is the companion knowledge of how to make a circuit board out of a bit of substrate and a piece of string about... that long. But the main stumbling block for non-hams appears to be how to make all those teenie-tiny holes in the circuit board. MAKING HOLES It's pretty easy. You need a tiny drill -- somewhere between #70 and #75. Then you need to spin it about 12,000 rpm. And you need to keep it perfectly vertical as you make the hole. The drill bits are no problem. Harbor Freight will sell you a selection of solid carbide bits suitable for the task; simply pick a size to suit the components you're using, such as the wire legs of an LED or quarter-watt resister. A Dremel tool (or similar) is the handiest means of chucking the tiny drill, most of which have a shank diameter of 1/8". To hold it perfectly vertical you don't 'hold' it at all -- you make up a 90 degree bracket and clamp, wire or glue the tool to the vertical leg. On the horizontal leg you drill a 1/4" hole to accept a bolt which you then chuck into your DRILL PRESS. There's a few picky-bits to this method, such as using a bracket that is a true 90, and thick enough so as not to deflect as you run the quill of your drill press up & down. You need some method of preventing the quill from rotating of course -- I use a simple wedge between the quill pulley and the frame of the drill press head (big, old Craftsman floor model. Your mileage may vary...) To keep from ruining the chuck in your drill press (which was not designed to grab hold of threaded bolts) you put a barrel-nut on the bolt. Deal with all the tricky bits and the result is a shake-free, carbide-tipped hole-maker that will give you a life-time of accurate service (and already has, in my case... I used it to make the boards for my first computer back in the mid-70's). ELEVATION vs AZIMUTH Azimuth is relative to the horizontal. Elevation means over-head. In laying out the circuit board, asimuth is taken care of by orienting the legs of the LED's. Since the LED's have an average viewing angle of 25 degrees, to provide adequate coverage the azimuth angle starts at 10 degrees and progresses in 20 degree increments. Of course, when you're trying to provide full coverage across a segment of a sphere, your LED's must be accurately oriented in TWO dimensions. The key point here is that I chose to build the aximuth angle into the circuit board. The elevation angle is bent into the legs of the LED's using a simple form-block, accurately printed via DeltaCAD, glued to a bit of plywood and sanded to the line. To keep things simple, I abandoned the variable height arrangement as described in my original post, other than allowing a bit of overlap between one row of LED's to the next so as to keep down the circuit board, which comes out about two by two inches. As a further simplification, I eliminated the left vs right bending angles used in my original (2002) lights. Now all of the LED's get the same set of bends relative to their positive lead. To accommodate the change from left- to right-facing, I re-drew the circuit board. MAKING THE CIRCUIT BOARD The Old Fashioned Way was to start with a drawing then go to litho film, then to a fine-meshed silk screen. Once you had the silk screen you could whip out a hundred circuit boards in an afternoon... after spending a month to arrive at that point. Nowadays I simply print the circuit board mask onto cheap glossy-finished color photo paper using a monochrome laser printer. Here's why it works: Laser printer media is a finely divided thermo-plastic -- a powder so fine it is attracted to the electrostatic charge created by the laser. The thermo-plastic material is transferred to the paper by heat. This lends itself to making circuit boards because once the thermo-plastic material has been transferred to the paper, it may be RE-TRANSFERRED to the clean copper surface of a blank circuit board by the application of ADDITIIONAL heat. In effect, you literally iron-on the mask, solidly gluing the paper to the circuit board. Now the trick is to get rid of the paper, which I'll get to in a minute. But before I do, you should know that while using plain paper is possible, the resulting transfer will show a lot of voids; plain paper simply isn't a very good substrait for the thermo-plastic material. But cheap color copier paper is. Color copier paper is typically coated, giving it a denser, more uniform surface than regular #20 bond. That slicker surface attracts a more uniform layer of the thermo-plastic material; you end up with a dense, dark, void-free pattern. But it's gotta be CHEAP color copier paper because you want the stuff to dissolve in warm, soapy water. High quality color copier paper is some very tough stuff; it doesn't like to come apart. But the paper HAS to come apart if we want to leave ONLY the thermo-plastic material bonded to our circuit board. So use the cheap stuff. And soak it in warm soapy water. Then scrub it with a tooth brush or whatever -- get ALL of the paper off of the thermo-plastic. Now you can etch the board in the usual way. And having etched it, you gotta drill those zillion holes. Once etched & drilled, remove the thermo-plastic, which you can do with MEK or other kidney-killer solvent and a bit of steel wool. The result is a bright copper circuit board, ready to accept components and easy to solder. Once things are soldered and checked and and all the errors corrected, give the thing a coating of clear finger-nail polish (!) and you're all done -- a super bright nav light that will never burn out (at least, not in your life time) that draws about a quarter of an amp, meaning the wiring can be slightly smaller than a starter cable. -R.S.Hoover -(KA6HZF) PS -- Yes, you may have a copy of the circuit boards, if you wish. But you could probably do better yourself -- except for the stern-light, they're just rectangular 5x9 arrays. I don't have a web site and I already get more email than I want so I'll try to find somewhere to hang them. When I do, I post the information here... for all 385 subscribers of r.a.h. to read :-) |
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Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote: I've used ExpressPCB where you layout your printed circuit on on your computer (easy to use free software download) send it to them over the internet, and for $63 get three two sided circuit boards with plated thru holes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For comparison, All Electronics (www.allelectronics.com) will sell you a 6x12" piece of copper clad circuit board for five bucks. That's enough to do a dozen nav lights. It's single-sided but that's all that is needed for such a simple circuit. They will also sell you the etchant ($4). And Tinnit (if you wanna use it). Bottom Line: If you spend more than a buck per board you simply don't understand the motivation behind Flying on the Cheap, which is the fact that the median income in the United States is less than thirty grand a year. -R.S.Hoover |
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On 13 Mar 2006 10:07:48 -0800, wrote:
Stuart & Kathryn Fields wrote: I've used ExpressPCB where you layout your printed circuit on on your computer (easy to use free software download) send it to them over the internet, and for $63 get three two sided circuit boards with plated thru holes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For comparison, All Electronics (www.allelectronics.com) will sell you a 6x12" piece of copper clad circuit board for five bucks. That's enough to do a dozen nav lights. It's single-sided but that's all that is needed for such a simple circuit. They will also sell you the etchant ($4). And Tinnit (if you wanna use it). Bottom Line: If you spend more than a buck per board you simply don't understand the motivation behind Flying on the Cheap, which is the fact that the median income in the United States is less than thirty grand a year. Yah Bob, but Median is not nearly as meaningful as average and I'll bet average is below median. Then again it depends on how they calculate median. Is it against individual incomes, or do they place incomes into groups. The US is one of the few places that uses median while most of the world uses average. At any rate, on the lights, how about using a plastic ball cut in half. Just drill the holes and tie the leads together on the back side and then pot it with epoxy or resin. You don't even need the circuit board. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com -R.S.Hoover |
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Yah Roger... But is that average figured with or without Bill Gates in
the pool? Without him I'm above average... With him I'm out in the median, picking up beer cans for the deposit... R.S. Hoover... Well, it may be true that hams are genetically encoded to be able to solder... OTOH I've seen some ham solder jobs that raise questions of genetic damage... denny k8do, and a bunch of other initials |
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On 14 Mar 2006 10:32:22 -0800, "Denny" wrote:
Yah Roger... But is that average figured with or without Bill Gates in the pool? Without him I'm above average... With him I'm out in the median, picking up beer cans for the deposit... R.S. Hoover... Well, it may be true that hams are genetically encoded to be able to solder... OTOH I've seen some ham solder jobs that raise questions of genetic damage... Been out in my shop again, huh? I thought I had all those projects hidden. Just finished redoing the leading edge of the one elevator shell...again!. Looks pretty good this time. Now I need to figure out how to set up a small router to cut out the hinge access points so they look good. Sand and fill, sand and fill, sand and fill, fill and sand. (I like to change the routine and add a little variety at times.) Today was expensive. 250 Gig WD hard drive failed. Warranty failed two weeks ago. Display failed on my Kenwood TM-V7A mobile rig. Free replacement if I purchased it between Jan 1, 2000 and Jan 1, 2006. I purchased it about the end of May 1999. $160 just for the display but that does include shipping six bucks for shipping. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com denny k8do, and a bunch of other initials |
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"Roger" wrote Just finished redoing the leading edge of the one elevator shell...again!. Looks pretty good this time. Now I need to figure out how to set up a small router to cut out the hinge access points so they look good. I would use a jig, and a router bit to follow the jig. Make a big letter "O", of whatever size and shape you need, tape it to the surface, and let the non cutting surface of the bit follow around the inside of the template, using rotation to force it to the template. I hope this is clear enough. -- Jim in NC |
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:44:29 -0500, Roger
wrote: On 14 Mar 2006 10:32:22 -0800, "Denny" wrote: Yah Roger... But is that average figured with or without Bill Gates in the pool? Without him I'm above average... With him I'm out in the median, picking up beer cans for the deposit... This post never turned up on my server so I'm kinda answering it out of order. Even though ol' Bill is worth 40 some Billion, his annual income is probably no more than a paltry few hundred million. Divide that by the number of tax payers and for the average he isn't going to change it more than a dollar or two. Median leaves a lot to the imagination as to how they figure it. Is it on every return based on value. (Every return with a value of say $20,000 is lumped together and the total only counts as one), or do they count it in brackets in increments of a $1000, $2000, $10,000. Each bracket would only count as one. More than likely they go in steps of a million or more up in that rarified atmosphere. As an exaggeration they could have one bracket of zero to 20,000, one of 20 to 30 thousand, and one of everything greater than 30 thousand. That would make the median the 20 to 30 thousand range. or zero to $100, $100 to $200, and everyone over $200 and the medial becomes $100 to $200. OTOH when it comes to average would they be using gross or taxable income? Or something else? Ain't government accounting wonderful. We'd go to jail for using their math. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com R.S. Hoover... Well, it may be true that hams are genetically encoded to be able to solder... OTOH I've seen some ham solder jobs that raise questions of genetic damage... Been out in my shop again, huh? I thought I had all those projects hidden. Just finished redoing the leading edge of the one elevator shell...again!. Looks pretty good this time. Now I need to figure out how to set up a small router to cut out the hinge access points so they look good. Sand and fill, sand and fill, sand and fill, fill and sand. (I like to change the routine and add a little variety at times.) Today was expensive. 250 Gig WD hard drive failed. Warranty failed two weeks ago. Display failed on my Kenwood TM-V7A mobile rig. Free replacement if I purchased it between Jan 1, 2000 and Jan 1, 2006. I purchased it about the end of May 1999. $160 just for the display but that does include shipping six bucks for shipping. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com denny k8do, and a bunch of other initials |
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Try this mob:
www.futurlec.com.au/PCBService.jsp Very cheap, have through plated holes, double sided and you get the board in just over a week. Happy flying and soldering. Rob Melbourne Australia "Stuart & Kathryn Fields" wrote in message .. . I've used ExpressPCB where you layout your printed circuit on on your computer (easy to use free software download) send it to them over the internet, and for $63 get three two sided circuit boards with plated thru holes. I've had and continue to have excellent service. Stu Fields From: Subject: More LED's - Again Date: Sunday, March 12, 2006 2:02 AM To All: The steady decline in the cost of ultra-bright green LED's (now about two-bits each for a 100-piece baggie) has generated renewed interest in the bug-eyed LED nav lights I described on this Newsgroup a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, that renewed interest has lead to some renewed problems, one having to do with the lay-out of the circuit board, the other with its fabrication. But the most serious problem has to do with the fact that ham radio operators learn to solder shortly after birth, or even before... according to some. Along with the ability to solder is the companion knowledge of how to make a circuit board out of a bit of substrate and a piece of string about... that long. But the main stumbling block for non-hams appears to be how to make all those teenie-tiny holes in the circuit board. MAKING HOLES It's pretty easy. You need a tiny drill -- somewhere between #70 and #75. Then you need to spin it about 12,000 rpm. And you need to keep it perfectly vertical as you make the hole. The drill bits are no problem. Harbor Freight will sell you a selection of solid carbide bits suitable for the task; simply pick a size to suit the components you're using, such as the wire legs of an LED or quarter-watt resister. A Dremel tool (or similar) is the handiest means of chucking the tiny drill, most of which have a shank diameter of 1/8". To hold it perfectly vertical you don't 'hold' it at all -- you make up a 90 degree bracket and clamp, wire or glue the tool to the vertical leg. On the horizontal leg you drill a 1/4" hole to accept a bolt which you then chuck into your DRILL PRESS. There's a few picky-bits to this method, such as using a bracket that is a true 90, and thick enough so as not to deflect as you run the quill of your drill press up & down. You need some method of preventing the quill from rotating of course -- I use a simple wedge between the quill pulley and the frame of the drill press head (big, old Craftsman floor model. Your mileage may vary...) To keep from ruining the chuck in your drill press (which was not designed to grab hold of threaded bolts) you put a barrel-nut on the bolt. Deal with all the tricky bits and the result is a shake-free, carbide-tipped hole-maker that will give you a life-time of accurate service (and already has, in my case... I used it to make the boards for my first computer back in the mid-70's). ELEVATION vs AZIMUTH Azimuth is relative to the horizontal. Elevation means over-head. In laying out the circuit board, asimuth is taken care of by orienting the legs of the LED's. Since the LED's have an average viewing angle of 25 degrees, to provide adequate coverage the azimuth angle starts at 10 degrees and progresses in 20 degree increments. Of course, when you're trying to provide full coverage across a segment of a sphere, your LED's must be accurately oriented in TWO dimensions. The key point here is that I chose to build the aximuth angle into the circuit board. The elevation angle is bent into the legs of the LED's using a simple form-block, accurately printed via DeltaCAD, glued to a bit of plywood and sanded to the line. To keep things simple, I abandoned the variable height arrangement as described in my original post, other than allowing a bit of overlap between one row of LED's to the next so as to keep down the circuit board, which comes out about two by two inches. As a further simplification, I eliminated the left vs right bending angles used in my original (2002) lights. Now all of the LED's get the same set of bends relative to their positive lead. To accommodate the change from left- to right-facing, I re-drew the circuit board. MAKING THE CIRCUIT BOARD The Old Fashioned Way was to start with a drawing then go to litho film, then to a fine-meshed silk screen. Once you had the silk screen you could whip out a hundred circuit boards in an afternoon... after spending a month to arrive at that point. Nowadays I simply print the circuit board mask onto cheap glossy-finished color photo paper using a monochrome laser printer. Here's why it works: Laser printer media is a finely divided thermo-plastic -- a powder so fine it is attracted to the electrostatic charge created by the laser. The thermo-plastic material is transferred to the paper by heat. This lends itself to making circuit boards because once the thermo-plastic material has been transferred to the paper, it may be RE-TRANSFERRED to the clean copper surface of a blank circuit board by the application of ADDITIIONAL heat. In effect, you literally iron-on the mask, solidly gluing the paper to the circuit board. Now the trick is to get rid of the paper, which I'll get to in a minute. But before I do, you should know that while using plain paper is possible, the resulting transfer will show a lot of voids; plain paper simply isn't a very good substrait for the thermo-plastic material. But cheap color copier paper is. Color copier paper is typically coated, giving it a denser, more uniform surface than regular #20 bond. That slicker surface attracts a more uniform layer of the thermo-plastic material; you end up with a dense, dark, void-free pattern. But it's gotta be CHEAP color copier paper because you want the stuff to dissolve in warm, soapy water. High quality color copier paper is some very tough stuff; it doesn't like to come apart. But the paper HAS to come apart if we want to leave ONLY the thermo-plastic material bonded to our circuit board. So use the cheap stuff. And soak it in warm soapy water. Then scrub it with a tooth brush or whatever -- get ALL of the paper off of the thermo-plastic. Now you can etch the board in the usual way. And having etched it, you gotta drill those zillion holes. Once etched & drilled, remove the thermo-plastic, which you can do with MEK or other kidney-killer solvent and a bit of steel wool. The result is a bright copper circuit board, ready to accept components and easy to solder. Once things are soldered and checked and and all the errors corrected, give the thing a coating of clear finger-nail polish (!) and you're all done -- a super bright nav light that will never burn out (at least, not in your life time) that draws about a quarter of an amp, meaning the wiring can be slightly smaller than a starter cable. -R.S.Hoover -(KA6HZF) PS -- Yes, you may have a copy of the circuit boards, if you wish. But you could probably do better yourself -- except for the stern-light, they're just rectangular 5x9 arrays. I don't have a web site and I already get more email than I want so I'll try to find somewhere to hang them. When I do, I post the information here... for all 385 subscribers of r.a.h. to read :-) |
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