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Bush's Attempt to Usurp the Constitution
Today's New York Times:
"The extreme reach of the administration's view that a war president is not subject to check by the other branches of government was apparent in the recently disclosed memorandums on torturing prisoners. A Defense Department memo from March 2003 said that "any effort by Congress to regulate the interrogation of unlawful combatants would violate the Constitution's sole vesting of the commander-in-chief authority in the president." The administration later disavowed that argument. It would plainly fail the Supreme Court's test." These sorry Republican *******s have got to go. Walt |
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Subject: Bush's Attempt to Usurp the Constitution
From: (WalterM140) Date: 6/29/2004 3:40 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Today's New York Times: "The extreme reach of the administration's view that a war president is not subject to check by the other branches of government was apparent in the recently disclosed memorandums on torturing prisoners. A Defense Department memo from March 2003 said that "any effort by Congress to regulate the interrogation of unlawful combatants would violate the Constitution's sole vesting of the commander-in-chief authority in the president." The administration later disavowed that argument. It would plainly fail the Supreme Court's test." These sorry Republican *******s have got to go. Walt Is it true that you volunteered for, and served with, the US Marines in the Gulf? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Is it true that you volunteered for, and served with, the US Marines in the Gulf? Yes. And I narrowly missed going to Viet Nam too. The way that went down is that the bulk of my Infantry Training School class made up the bulk of the battalion that did the evacuation of Saigon in 1975. Twenty-three of us got follow on orders to Sea School Atlantic, so I was in Spain when the end came in Viet Nam. Walt |
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Subject: Bush's Attempt to Usurp the Constitution
From: (WalterM140) Date: 6/30/2004 5:27 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Is it true that you volunteered for, and served with, the US Marines in the Gulf? Yes. And I narrowly missed going to Viet Nam too. The way that went down is that the bulk of my Infantry Training School class made up the bulk of the battalion that did the evacuation of Saigon in 1975. Twenty-three of us got follow on orders to Sea School Atlantic, so I was in Spain when the end came in Viet Nam. Walt Damn few had the guts to step forward and volunteer for the Marines. Me included. Well done Walt. Well done. Are there any Marines on this NG? Note that I didn't say ex-marines because once a marine always a marine. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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WalterM140 wrote:
Is it true that you volunteered for, and served with, the US Marines in the Gulf? Yes. And I narrowly missed going to Viet Nam too. The way that went down is that the bulk of my Infantry Training School class made up the bulk of the battalion that did the evacuation of Saigon in 1975. Twenty-three of us got follow on orders to Sea School Atlantic, so I was in Spain when the end came in Viet Nam. Heheh. I was in a Wing QC outfit for a while at Ramstein. We had some squirrel captain for an OIC (non-rated, to boot; clearly, they had to find a job for this guy, where he couldn't get in much trouble, and we were stuck with him). I think it was 1983, when AFN radio gave the news of our invasion of Granada. We listened carefully. As the broadcast ended, Capt. Fuzz [1] blurted out: "DAMN! I would give anything to have been there!" About a dozen gray-haired MSgts and TSgts (all Vietnam War vets, most with multiple tours) responded - unrehearsed and almost in unison - "Great Sir! You can take my place, next time!" [1] Name changed to protect the foolish... |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 01:31:34 -0400, Dweezil Dwarftosser
wrote: Heheh. I was in a Wing QC outfit for a while at Ramstein. We had some squirrel captain for an OIC (non-rated, to boot; clearly, they had to find a job for this guy, where he couldn't get in much trouble, and we were stuck with him). I think it was 1983, when AFN radio gave the news of our invasion of Granada. We listened carefully. As the broadcast ended, Capt. Fuzz [1] blurted out: "DAMN! I would give anything to have been there!" About a dozen gray-haired MSgts and TSgts (all Vietnam War vets, most with multiple tours) responded - unrehearsed and almost in unison - "Great Sir! You can take my place, next time!" Hah! Luvvit! Similar thing happened to me. I was flogging an AT-38B at Holloman. Passed over several times for O-5. Promotion list came out and the Wing DO had the task of informing those in the zone of the outcome. He caught me in the hall and piously intoned his regret that I hadn't made it (again). Then he continued: "Ed, with all your combat experience and the great job you've been doing, I'll tell you honestly, if we go to war again and you get to lead, you're gonna make it immediately. You'll be advanced right away." I, rapidly becoming the senior major in the entire USAF and with nothing to lose, looked at the colonel and with great humility said, "Sir, if we go to war again, it'll be somebody else's turn." Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Subject: Bush's Attempt to Usurp the Constitution
From: (Regnirps) Date: 6/29/2004 2:28 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: (ArtKramr) wrote: As the SCOTUS indicated in an 8 to 1 kick in the ass they gave him yesterday. Now watch the neocons accuse the SCOTUS of being left wing. (sheesh) Art, as I recall, neocons were originally catholic liberals who went conservative. They were exemplified by Buckley, Phodoretz, and the whole New Republic crowd. They often said silly things like 'Religion is the third leg of conservatism" which could be taken several ways. Anyway, the term is back in use and often describing youger players, and O'Riley, Baby Jesus - I mean Hannity, and Laura ??? are all catholics. What do you mean by neocon these days? -- Charlie Springer Neo conservatives. The religious right wing of the Republican party Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote:
Subject: Bush's Attempt to Usurp the Constitution From: (Regnirps) Date: 6/29/2004 2:28 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: (ArtKramr) wrote: As the SCOTUS indicated in an 8 to 1 kick in the ass they gave him yesterday. Now watch the neocons accuse the SCOTUS of being left wing. (sheesh) Art, as I recall, neocons were originally catholic liberals who went conservative. They were exemplified by Buckley, Phodoretz, and the whole New Republic crowd. They often said silly things like 'Religion is the third leg of conservatism" which could be taken several ways. Anyway, the term is back in use and often describing youger players, and O'Riley, Baby Jesus - I mean Hannity, and Laura ??? are all catholics. What do you mean by neocon these days? -- Charlie Springer Neo conservatives. The religious right wing of the Republican party I have some bad news for you Art, the "religious right wing of the Republican party" are not neocon's. |
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