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Hidden costs of ethenol
I am remimded of a quote that said, "when otherwise intelligent people
do stupid stuff, there is usually politics involved". So not only do we pay more for less power in out auto fuel... http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...nd-for-ethanol |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
cavelamb himself wrote:
I am remimded of a quote that said, "when otherwise intelligent people do stupid stuff, there is usually politics involved". So not only do we pay more for less power in out auto fuel... http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...nd-for-ethanol It's spelled ethanol, not ethenol, babe. Dang non media types, no copy editing. (tongue-in-cheek mode into low gear) And while it's true that corn's up a good deal from its 2000 price of $1.95 a bushel, it's also true that in 1950 corn cost... $2.00 a bushel. The cost of the corn in a bag of Doritos is 2 cents, so folks howling about its effect on other consumer products are crying wolf, dear. We pay less of our income for food than any other consumers on earth and nobody I've seen lately is in any danger of starving. Let them brew up their corn ethanol for another year or so until others start making it out of weeds, leftover winegrapeskins, and other crap and the Midwestern plants are standing empty. When the price of corn goes back down to two bucks a bushel once again, don't hold your breath waiting for cheaper Doritos...that's not the way the system works. Of course by then we'll "win" the "war" in Iraq and gas will be real cheap again. |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
On Jun 25, 9:19 pm, Stella Starr wrote:
cavelamb himself wrote: I am remimded of a quote that said, "when otherwise intelligent people do stupid stuff, there is usually politics involved". It's spelled ethanol, not ethenol, babe. Dang non media types, no copy editing. (tongue-in-cheek mode into low gear) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It doesn't matter how he spells it, it's still a scam. Were it not for ADM's lobbyists and massive subsidies provided by your tax dollars, the whole idea of diluting gasoline with alcohol would fall flat on its face. -R.S.Hoover |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:19:36 -0700, Stella Starr
wrote: cavelamb himself wrote: I am remimded of a quote that said, "when otherwise intelligent people do stupid stuff, there is usually politics involved". So not only do we pay more for less power in out auto fuel... http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/20...nd-for-ethanol It's spelled ethanol, not ethenol, babe. Dang non media types, no copy editing. (tongue-in-cheek mode into low gear) And while it's true that corn's up a good deal from its 2000 price of $1.95 a bushel, it's also true that in 1950 corn cost... $2.00 a bushel. The cost of the corn in a bag of Doritos is 2 cents, so folks howling The cost of corn in the bag may be two cents, but if the cost of corn doubles the cost of the Doritos will go up a lot more than another 2 cents. More than likely they will go up by a good 50% even though about half the cost of them like soft drinks is in the packaging and handling. about its effect on other consumer products are crying wolf, dear. We pay less of our income for food than any other consumers on earth and nobody I've seen lately is in any danger of starving. Let them brew up their corn ethanol for another year or so until others start making it out of weeds, leftover winegrapeskins, and other crap and the Midwestern plants are standing empty. When the price of corn goes back down to two bucks a bushel once again, don't hold your breath waiting for cheaper Doritos...that's not the way the system works. Of course by then we'll "win" the "war" in Iraq and gas will be real cheap again. Ahhhh...you forgot the sarcasm mode on switch :-)) |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
Has anyone figured this out yet? Even if 1 half of all americans
change over to e-85 ethanal fuel, there isn't enough farm land to produce the corn that will be needed. We will once again be looking to an imported fuel base. Lou |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
"Lou" wrote in message oups.com... Has anyone figured this out yet? Even if 1 half of all americans change over to e-85 ethanal fuel, there isn't enough farm land to produce the corn that will be needed. We will once again be looking to an imported fuel base. Lou That's what the "so called" experts claim, but I sure see a lot of farm land that's not growing anything weeds. I guess we would all have the right to complain, that increased corn production would decrease our available assets for emergency landings. |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
"Lou" wrote in message
oups.com... Has anyone figured this out yet? Even if 1 half of all americans change over to e-85 ethanal fuel, there isn't enough farm land to produce the corn that will be needed. We will once again be looking to an imported fuel base. Lou As in everything with a balance, there are two options: 1. Produce more 2. Use less Considering the world rank of the USA on energy consumption, I'd focus on #2 Rob |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:53:23 -0700, Lou wrote:
Has anyone figured this out yet? Even if 1 half of all americans change over to e-85 ethanal fuel, there isn't enough farm land to produce the corn that will be needed. We will once again be looking to an imported fuel base. It's been publicized but apparently our congress critters missed that. Even with higher yields of corn and in production we don't have enough total farm land available to grow enough corn to produce enough alcohol to support a major switch to alcohol as a fuel. That's the main reason they talk about switch grass and bio generation of alcohol. However the Canadian's have it right using hemp which is easy to grow and gives a much higher yield of Alcohol while consuming much less energy to grow and process. Again, our government has a hangup with the word hemp, associating all hemp with the recreational stuff. BTW, we already have a 50 cent per gallon tariff on imported ethanol while we are subsidizing the growing of corn and alcohol processing plants. Lou |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
David Deutsch, Jimmy Carter's Undersecretary of Energy (let's see the
tree-huggers impeach THAT source!), has calculated that ethanol in gasoline is costing consumers $120 for every barrel of oil it replaces; with crude selling for under $70 per barrel the only people smiling about this are the corn growers, the ethanol producers, the politicians they've bought and people dumb enough to believe just about anything. I live in Iowa and I'm seeing close-up the ignorant boosterism that's behind this economically unsustainable scheme. |
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Hidden costs of ethenol
Stella Starr wrote:
It's spelled ethanol, not ethenol, babe. Dang non media types, no copy editing. (tongue-in-cheek mode into low gear) Ya got me again, beautiful. My software doesn't spell check the subject line - and after 9pm I can't spell worth a darn. Oh well, so much for fame and fortune... Richard |
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