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BRAC and Fort Rucker
Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in
the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. |
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Sell!
"BamaJohn" wrote in message om... Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. |
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BamaJohn wrote:
Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. Fort Rucker will probably survive this round due to politics. (Yes, I know the BRAC is supposed to be non-political.) If the location of the Army Flight Training Center were to be made on a strictly military needs basis, the Aviation Center would be moved to Fort Irwin. Between the NTC and Edwards AFB, there are about 950,000 acres of desert and mountains for maneuver. -- Fuzz |
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"Fuzzy Footie" wrote in message ... BamaJohn wrote: Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. Fort Rucker will probably survive this round due to politics. (Yes, I know the BRAC is supposed to be non-political.) If the location of the Army Flight Training Center were to be made on a strictly military needs basis, the Aviation Center would be moved to Fort Irwin. Between the NTC and Edwards AFB, there are about 950,000 acres of desert and mountains for maneuver. Is putting new trainee pilots into a high/hot situation from the outset really advisable? Not to mention the folks running the NTC would probably just as soon not have to worry about all of those TH-67's whirling around while they are trying to do serious work like running a BLUEFOR BCT through the wringer... Brooks -- Fuzz |
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Kevin Brooks wrote:
"Fuzzy Footie" wrote in message ... BamaJohn wrote: Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. Fort Rucker will probably survive this round due to politics. (Yes, I know the BRAC is supposed to be non-political.) If the location of the Army Flight Training Center were to be made on a strictly military needs basis, the Aviation Center would be moved to Fort Irwin. Between the NTC and Edwards AFB, there are about 950,000 acres of desert and mountains for maneuver. Is putting new trainee pilots into a high/hot situation from the outset really advisable? Not to mention the folks running the NTC would probably just as soon not have to worry about all of those TH-67's whirling around while they are trying to do serious work like running a BLUEFOR BCT through the wringer... Brooks -- Fuzz Hey! Evolution in action. While Fort Irwin is probably not the best climate or altitude to learn, for the foreseeable future that's the climate they will be flying in. There is enough acreage that they could keep to propeller heads away from the maneuver forces. Of course, Forts Campbell, Bragg or Benning have much more 'back' post area for flight training without flying trainees over civilian neighborhoods. -- Fuzz |
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"Fuzzy Footie" wrote in message ... Kevin Brooks wrote: "Fuzzy Footie" wrote in message ... BamaJohn wrote: Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. Fort Rucker will probably survive this round due to politics. (Yes, I know the BRAC is supposed to be non-political.) If the location of the Army Flight Training Center were to be made on a strictly military needs basis, the Aviation Center would be moved to Fort Irwin. Between the NTC and Edwards AFB, there are about 950,000 acres of desert and mountains for maneuver. Is putting new trainee pilots into a high/hot situation from the outset really advisable? Not to mention the folks running the NTC would probably just as soon not have to worry about all of those TH-67's whirling around while they are trying to do serious work like running a BLUEFOR BCT through the wringer... Brooks -- Fuzz Hey! Evolution in action. While Fort Irwin is probably not the best climate or altitude to learn, for the foreseeable future that's the climate they will be flying in. There is enough acreage that they could keep to propeller heads away from the maneuver forces. Of course, Forts Campbell, Bragg or Benning have much more 'back' post area for flight training without flying trainees over civilian neighborhoods. -- Fuzz I see you've never been trained as a pilot. Hell, Texas ain't big enough to train pilots in! Been there and done that, got the T-shirt, and wore it out completely! |
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John Hart wrote:
"Fuzzy Footie" wrote in message ... Kevin Brooks wrote: "Fuzzy Footie" wrote in message ... BamaJohn wrote: Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. Fort Rucker will probably survive this round due to politics. (Yes, I know the BRAC is supposed to be non-political.) If the location of the Army Flight Training Center were to be made on a strictly military needs basis, the Aviation Center would be moved to Fort Irwin. Between the NTC and Edwards AFB, there are about 950,000 acres of desert and mountains for maneuver. Is putting new trainee pilots into a high/hot situation from the outset really advisable? Not to mention the folks running the NTC would probably just as soon not have to worry about all of those TH-67's whirling around while they are trying to do serious work like running a BLUEFOR BCT through the wringer... Brooks -- Fuzz Hey! Evolution in action. While Fort Irwin is probably not the best climate or altitude to learn, for the foreseeable future that's the climate they will be flying in. There is enough acreage that they could keep to propeller heads away from the maneuver forces. Of course, Forts Campbell, Bragg or Benning have much more 'back' post area for flight training without flying trainees over civilian neighborhoods. -- Fuzz I see you've never been trained as a pilot. Hell, Texas ain't big enough to train pilots in! Been there and done that, got the T-shirt, and wore it out completely! Glad to hear it, but what's that got to do with the small on post flight area for first phase trainees at Fort Rucker? The post has worked for years in trying to gain more restricted air space for training. -- Fuzz |
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"BamaJohn" wrote in message om... Anyone have any information on how they feel Fort Rucker will fare in the next round of Base Realignment and Closure. What are its strenths and what are in weaknesses, and what are its major threats? Any information is appreciated. My bet would be on relocating Navy Helo training to Rucker. Consolidate the primary Helo training and reflect the "joint" world. In the past, the Navy has had a number of arguments against such a concept, but the wind ain't blowin' in that direction no mo'. R / John |
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©Old Sarge®° wrote:
While assigned to HQ Sixth Army at the Presidio of San Francisco, I was responsible for the reassignment of our officers and I had to request their orders. Well we had one officer that was being reassigned to the U.S. Army Aviation Center and School, Ft Rucker, AL and I requested his orders. Later that day the officer came in and called my attention to his orders which read "Ft ****er, AL". Oh ****. I ran back to the orders section and told them the orders needed to be amended immediately and distribution halted on the old copies. Well, distribution had already been made, and an amendment was out of the question. Why? Because an amendment would have directly called attention to the mistake. Instead they revoked the orders and re-cut them. I think that was the best laugh we had there in my three years there. A damn good assignment too. They called it "Camp ****ed Up" when I was there in '54-'55. Hq Co was the most ****ed up of all. LZ |
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©Old Sarge®° wrote:
"Lone Haranguer" wrote in message ... They called it "Camp ****ed Up" when I was there in '54-'55. Hq Co was the most ****ed up of all. LZ Damn Linus, while you were there I was learning how to drive. First car I ever drove was a new 55 Chevy, stick. Bad experience, but I got better and in 1957 I got my first car - a 46 Ford Club Coupe. You ARE an old fart. I was a member of the virgins club that opened the weather station there when Army Aviation was hatched. They had a few clunker fixed wing and ancient choppers they brought from Ft. Sill. The control tower was a barrel on a telephone post. No furnace or heat in the barracks, so no hot water. Coal burning stoves in the weather station and operations and even the mess hall. Towns around there were stuck in the 1920s. Got married there, turned 21 and made SSgt before volunteering to open up another weather station at Hurlburt Field in May of '55. I'd only been in the weather service a year and I was sent off to open a station all by myself with 60 days to get it up and running. They sent me a 2nd Lt. and 2 warm bodies a few days before we opened for business. LZ |
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