EU Heavy Bomber ideas?

If the EU is looking for more reach without carriers, how about heavy
bombers? Certainly something on the order of B-1B as far as airframe might
be a goal, or something less radical. It depends on their budget and
requirements, I guess. From bases in Europe they could cover much of Africa,
the Middle East, etc.

Of course if they wanted to go somewhere with fighters they might need
escort, etc.

DEP

David E. Powell wrote:
From bases in Europe they could cover much of Africa,
the Middle East, etc.

And USA!

"David E. Powell" wrote in message
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If the EU is looking for more reach without carriers, how about heavy
bombers

They don't need bombers for two reasons:

1. The USA will protect them. They claim they don't like that, but it
speaks volumes that they have all (except for the UK) let their military
budgets and capabilities decline to ludicrous levels.

2. Even if they had them, they'd never use them. The EU would spend years
debating military action, even if the hordes of whoever were beating on the
parliament doors.

They claim they don't like that, but it
speaks volumes that they have all (except for the UK) let their military
budgets and capabilities decline to ludicrous levels.

And what heavy bombers does the RAF have exactly?

Duncan

"DunxC" wrote in message
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They claim they don't like that, but it
speaks volumes that they have all (except for the UK) let their military
budgets and capabilities decline to ludicrous levels.

And what heavy bombers does the RAF have exactly?

I never said they did, only that the UK has a military that actually works.
Perhaps you could re-read the sentence you cut and pasted.

I never said they did, only that the UK has a military that actually works.

To be entirely fair, so does France.

The Brits did especially well in Basra, because they treated it as a
Middle East version of Belfast, just oozing into it rather than taking
it by assault.

France has done especially well in African messes. We tend to forget
how many of these there have been (French military adventures, not
messes) because American media resolutely ignore anything that doesn't
have an American angle. Before the U.S. bombed Gaddafi, for example,
the French had a small army in Chad (was it Chad? oh God I can't
remember) that whupped Gaddafi's invasion.


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France has done especially well in African messes. We tend to forget
how many of these there have been (French military adventures, not
messes) because American media resolutely ignore anything that doesn't
have an American angle. Before the U.S. bombed Gaddafi, for example,
the French had a small army in Chad (was it Chad? oh God I can't
remember) that whupped Gaddafi's invasion.





You are right...It was Chad, and there always French military people there..

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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I never said they did, only that the UK has a military that actually
works.

To be entirely fair, so does France.

They do? When did they last actually DO anything with it?

France has done especially well in African messes.

So has Belgium. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Before the U.S. bombed Gaddafi, for example,
the French had a small army in Chad (was it Chad? oh God I can't
remember) that whupped Gaddafi's invasion.

Yes, and as I recall, the US had a large hand in getting the French there
and then supporting them.

DunxC wrote:

And what heavy bombers does the RAF have exactly?

We still have one - and we used it across the Channel the other week.

From: Robert Briggs UCKET
Date: 6/21/2004 12:43 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

DunxC wrote:

And what heavy bombers does the RAF have exactly?

We still have one - and we used it across the Channel the other week.

True, but spare parts for Lancs are getting kind of scarce.

Dan, U.S.Air Force, retired