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Stimbo
in your case, filing on the ground will not work for you. the problem is that when you leave the sector of your FSS then the flight plan you filed is gone. After you enter the new sector, you either have to call the FSS and file again, or if you had done a composite then it will be available at where you wanted to pick it up. In this case, you would need to use an intersection or some type of navaid as the place to pick it up. to activate it, when your near th espot you chose, you just call center and tell them you have a IFR flight plan you would like to open. but if your expecting good weather, it may be easier to file in the air if you find you need to do it. Stimbo wrote: Thanks to EVERYONE for such great suggestions! You provided me some new ideas, and some that were just plain common sense, I must admit. I, of course, know that I can simply FILE IFR from the get-go and just not activate it until I need it. However NJ to FL is a 9-hour flight in a Cessna 172 plus 2 stops totalling 10 to 12 hours. I don't remember how long the IFR plan stays active in the system (3 hours?) before it's dropped. I guess this procedure makes me file every time I make a fuel/potty stop. I like the COMPOSITE flight plan idea. I had sorta forgotten about it. I need to read more about it. Is this easy to implement/activate? Thanks to SNOWBIRD (Sydney) for such great detail and your anecdotes. Yes - I should have originally stated that if VFR it would be with Flight Following. That's too long of a flight without help of some kind - especially these days (TFR's etc.) My eventual goal is to the Bahamas. I may start a new thread for some tips. Thanks again! Stimbo Medford, NJ |
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Around here, especially in SoCal, this is what I always do, I file at home, when
I get near the HEC VOR (the start of ziggy3) and if it looks like its below VFR I call and tell them I have a ifr flight plan I would like to activate, they get my N number, then come back with my clearance. Painless. Maule Driver wrote: "Stimbo" wrote in message om... I, of course, know that I can simply FILE IFR from the get-go and just not activate it until I need it. Well, not really. If you file, you need to open at departure. Otherwise, down the line they won't know who you are and may not go look. |
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Roy Smith wrote in message ...
(Snowbird) wrote: IMHO, that's one of the big "gotchas" for an IFR GA pilot. It's all too easy to fly along over a nice little layer, with a few fleecy clouds above and around, beautiful blue sky and brilliant sunshine, and have no clue at all that the wx is deteriorating below ILS minimums down below (and gosh, that excellent preflight wx briefing said there'd be 1500-2000 ft ceilings). That's why I always call Flight Watch once I'm up in the air to see how things are going at my destination. If everything is as expected, I can relax and enjoy the flight. If things have unexpectedly gone south, I've still got plenty of time to make a new plan (brief an approach, divert, whatever). Yes, exactly. And I imagine if it's a fairly long flight, you may call Flight Watch more than once and maybe get some NEXRAD or metars with CBAV (that's what we do, anyway, given the trace of a clue that things aren't as predicted). My point was to the chap who seemed to imply, if you have to file enroute, you didn't brief properly preflight...t'aint true. Mommy Nature doesn't seem to read the TAFs. Best, Sydney |
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Roy Smith wrote: Of course, it's utterly absurd that we should have to go to these contortions to get flight plans in the system when we want them. We've passed the point where desktop PC's have more memory than the FAA computers. We're now at the point where iPods have more. The FAA is out of money for modernization. They can barely keep up with maintenance and their GIANT payroll. They couch their failures in obtuse concepts of "performance or customer based programs." Meanwhile the STARS TRACON system is slowing down, the Data-Link "promise" (first made in the early 1970s) is once again slowing down, and WAAS seems to be going nowhere. In that scheme of events, the processing of G/A flight plans isn't exactly on the top of the pile. Keep in mind that the airlines and biz jets don't have flight plan issues.~ |
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wrote in message ... In that scheme of events, the processing of G/A flight plans isn't exactly on the top of the pile. Keep in mind that the airlines and biz jets don't have flight plan issues.~ I can't recall ever having a bizjet file enroute. I'm certain I've never had an airliner do it. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: I can't recall ever having a bizjet file enroute. I'm certain I've never had an airliner do it. Exactly. Airline flight plans are filed by dispatchers directly into the system. Biz jets are ground filers as well. |
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wrote in message ... Exactly. Airline flight plans are filed by dispatchers directly into the system. Biz jets are ground filers as well. So what were you trying to make with your comparison? Private pilots that file on the ground don't have any more flight plan issues than bizjets and airliners. |
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