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But now *this* example goes totally against your "three rules of
officership." Backpedaling now, are we? Steve Swartz "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: An Officer....... From: (QDurham) Date: 2/24/04 10:32 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Let me give you another example. We show up at our plane before a mission. I do the mandatory pre-flight inspection and find that the arming wires in the bomb bay are poorly isntalled. I turn to one of the gunners and say, "Sgt. Get in that jeep and go to the ammo dump and get an ordnance man our here to reinstall these arming wires properly." He says," I don't know sir, they don't look all that bad to me.. And it is a long way to the dump.And those ordnance guys really get ****ed if you bug them like that. Why don't we just fly the mission. It will probably be OK". Now that never happened. But if it did that gunner wouild be removed from our crew. We wouldn't have him fly with us on Willie the Wolf. He would probably be removed form the base never to be seen again. And when you inquired about what happened to him, no one would seem to know. What do you think happened to him? Any idea? Want some more examples? . Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer Art, you are so damn right. Been there. Done that. Preflight Pensacola. You are so correct. Sic 'em! Quent On our crew any order given by our pilot was immediately carried out without question. He was a good pilot and a good leader and knew what he was doing. There were times when we came home from missions with battle damage and S /Sgt Greigo engineer giunner (tail) would be up all night working with the crew chief on the repairs. In the morning we would ask Greigo if Willie was ok. If he said no, we wouldn't fly her no matter what the crew chief said. If he gave us a thumbs up we would haveWillie in the air that day. So we worked together as a crew. But no member of our crew ever once did anything less than follow orders as they were given. It was the way we were trained and it was the way we flew. And we did it with pride and professionalism. |
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Once the breakout was made British and Canadian troops
advanced just as quickly as anyone else. According to the last book I read ("Operation Cobra" by Bill Yenne ISBN:0-7434-5882-6) there really was no "break out" in the north and the Canucks and British didn't move anywhere near as fast as the US First or Third Armies. At one point, Third Army was advancing *90 miles* a day. Many of the reasons the Canuck/Brit advance were slower, you've already mentioned. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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You would have ytaken ithe bomb on the mision even though you knew you
couldn't hit a damn thing with i? Remember we risked our lives to get that bomb over the target in the heavily defended Ruhr valley. If you wouwd have taken that bad bomb, I dont think you had the stuff to make it on our crew. With your CEP, it wouldn't have made a difference, in fact that weapon may have been *closer* than any other due to compensating errors. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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"SIr, I know its bent but not too baldy it;ll be ok". I said, "
get thaa bomb out of here, get bacl to the Bomb dump and bring us a replacement in good condition NOW" I've no doubt that those were your exact words, I've also no doubt that you were screaming them at him. I wonder why you couldn't have tried the following; "I know you've been bustin' your back all night sarge, but our target for today is XX factory in the Ruhr and its pretty well defended, I'd sure hate to get all the way their and basically throw 1 of my 8 weapons away". (Violating Rule #3 of Art Kramer's "Great officer rules"-explaining). Chances are the Sgt. would have agreed with your assesment, headed back to the bomb dump and brought you the newest, cleanest weapon there. I blew. "get, get you ass back and bring me a good bomb or I'll have your ass in the stockade". Violating BUFDRVR's #1 "Great officer rules" by losing your composure in front of a subordinate. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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"BUFDRVR" wrote
Violating BUFDRVR's #1 "Great officer rules" by losing your composure in front of a subordinate. I was at the PX today buying a soda-pop and a car magazine, waiting in line. There was two cashiers, so I positioned myself to get the first one that opened. Stupid me, this African-American one-stripe gomer shot past my port side, and took-up position on the now opened cashier. The cashier, who was about as shocked as I was, told the guy that I was next, and not him! Now, in my old days, he would have been bleeding on the floor right after he zipped on by, but through counseling and worship, I remarked to the cashier, that I was proud to stand aside for our new General. Everyone laughed, and we all went on our way. No ambulance or MP's were needed :-) |
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