Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John Kerry?

On 30 Aug 2004 22:32:59 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

Subject: Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John
Kerry?
From: Bob
Date: 8/30/2004 3:16 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On 29 Aug 2004 11:58:02 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

Kerry went to war. Bush hid in Texas then disapeared

And where was Edwards?

In high school.

John Edwards born in Seneca, South Carolina in 1953
Graduated North Carolina State University 1974

I guess it is confusing since Kerry didn't know how old John Edwards
was either...

http://www.kerryquotes.com/
Jan 19, 2004: In the Senate four years - and that is the full extent
of public life - no international experience, no military experience,
you can imagine what the advertising is going to be next year. When I
came back from Vietnam in 1969 I don’t know if John Edwards was out of
diapers then. Well, I’m sure he was out of diapers. (Adam Nagourney
and Jim Rutenberg, “With Hopes Up And Elbows Out, Democrats Give Iowa
Their All,” The New York Times)

Subject: Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John
Kerry?
From: "Steven P. McNicoll"

Happy to. Republicans tend to vote in favor of a strong military while

Yeah. They just won't fight.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

From: GreyCloud
Date: 8/29/2004 1:42 PM Central Daylight Time
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Ray Fischer wrote:

John Griffin wrote:

(Ray Fischer) wrote:

Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) wrote:

Warchild wrote in


Why would they
lie?

Because their personal animus towards John Kerry trumps the truth.

I don't suppose that it ever occurred to you that their personal
animus might be because of the things Kerry did?

He spoke the truth.

Some people don't like that.

"Jesus loves me, this I know; for the Bible tells me so."

You know Kerry spoke the truth, because The Democratic Party said so.


No, because US war crimes in S.E. Asia have been well documented from a
variety of sources.


Care to cite these sources, Ray?

The most notable was My Lai, but that was the exception rather than the rule.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On 29 Aug 2004 20:35:39 -0400, BOB SD wrote:

Gactimus wrote in :

BOB wrote in :

Gactimus wrote in
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BOB SD wrote in :

Gactimus wrote in
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Elmo wrote in
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If Kerry was awarded five or six medals that Republicans now claim
he didn't deserve

What Republicans?

All of them.

Names and cites please.

Can't your read?

Obviously you can't. Your lack of specific names and cites is noted.

Your ignorance and failure to comprehend a simple statement is also noted.

your failure to post anything relevant is noted.

Nate Frisch wrote in
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Elmo" wrote in message
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The Swift Boat Veterans are eye witnesses who were there.


Hundreds of yards from the action.



Who says they were hundreds of yards away?

Which is within visual range thus making them eye witnesses who were
there.

Hundreds of yards away is not close enough to say where the bullets
are hitting. At night you could get a good idea where they are coming
from. Heck just try sighting on a target two hundred yards away
without a scope.


If bullets were hitting,then SOMEONE ought to have gotten wounded.
Muzzle flashes would be seen.



Those who were there say otherwise.


The Swift Boat Veterans ARE those that were there.


While it is true they were in Vietnam. The evidence is pretty strong
they weren't very close to Kerry.


Swift Boats did not go out singly,they went in groups.
When docked,they all lived together,ate together.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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Nate Frisch wrote in
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Elmo" wrote in message
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The Swift Boat Veterans are eye witnesses who were there.


Hundreds of yards from the action.



Who says they were hundreds of yards away?

Which is within visual range thus making them eye witnesses who were
there.

Hundreds of yards away is not close enough to say where the bullets
are hitting. At night you could get a good idea where they are coming
from. Heck just try sighting on a target two hundred yards away
without a scope.


If bullets were hitting,then SOMEONE ought to have gotten wounded.
Muzzle flashes would be seen.

Ah, heck...just ask the guy why Kerry's own personal journal indicates that
as of nine days *after* this alleged "enemy action" on December 2nd, he
recorded (on Dec 11th) that he had yet to be fired at by the enemy?

Amazingly, the Kerry apologists don't like to answer that question, even
though the journal entry is cited in his own adoring pice of literature,
Brinlkley's "Tour of Duty".

Brooks

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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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Nate Frisch wrote in
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Elmo" wrote in message
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The Swift Boat Veterans are eye witnesses who were there.


Hundreds of yards from the action.



Who says they were hundreds of yards away?

Which is within visual range thus making them eye witnesses who
were there.

Hundreds of yards away is not close enough to say where the bullets
are hitting. At night you could get a good idea where they are
coming from. Heck just try sighting on a target two hundred yards
away without a scope.


If bullets were hitting,then SOMEONE ought to have gotten wounded.
Muzzle flashes would be seen.

Ah, heck...just ask the guy why Kerry's own personal journal indicates
that as of nine days *after* this alleged "enemy action" on December
2nd, he recorded (on Dec 11th) that he had yet to be fired at by the
enemy?

Amazingly, the Kerry apologists don't like to answer that question,
even though the journal entry is cited in his own adoring pice of
literature, Brinlkley's "Tour of Duty".

Brooks

snip




There was a list of questions that the media should get Kerry to answer on
National Review.com a few days ago.This was one of them.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in
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"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
.. .
Nate Frisch wrote in
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Elmo" wrote in message
...

The Swift Boat Veterans are eye witnesses who were there.


Hundreds of yards from the action.



Who says they were hundreds of yards away?

Which is within visual range thus making them eye witnesses who
were there.

Hundreds of yards away is not close enough to say where the bullets
are hitting. At night you could get a good idea where they are
coming from. Heck just try sighting on a target two hundred yards
away without a scope.


If bullets were hitting,then SOMEONE ought to have gotten wounded.
Muzzle flashes would be seen.

Ah, heck...just ask the guy why Kerry's own personal journal indicates
that as of nine days *after* this alleged "enemy action" on December
2nd, he recorded (on Dec 11th) that he had yet to be fired at by the
enemy?

Amazingly, the Kerry apologists don't like to answer that question,
even though the journal entry is cited in his own adoring pice of
literature, Brinlkley's "Tour of Duty".

Brooks

snip




There was a list of questions that the media should get Kerry to answer on
National Review.com a few days ago.This was one of them.

Am I the only one who finds it amazing that the same media that repeatedly
tried to dissect Bush's military record, down to the point of asking for
witnesses to his attendance of ET drills with the ALANG , refuses to ask
Kerry such questions about his own conflicting accounts of acts that he has
so prominantly featured in his campaign? This is one of the more blatant
examples of media bias I have ever seen. Many decrie th existance and
tactics of the SBVT, but maybe they are just serving to fill the void left
by a predominantly Kerry-supporting media that exhibits little interest in
obtaining the truth about Kerry's curious Vietnam service record.

Brooks


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Subject: Swift Boat Veterans For Truth: Are They Going To Sink John
Kerry?
From: Nate Frisch
Date: 8/30/2004 1:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Elmo" wrote in message
...

The Swift Boat Veterans are eye witnesses who were there.


Hundreds of yards from the action.


Which is within visual range thus making them eye witnesses who were there.

Hundreds of yards away is not close enough to say where the bullets are
hitting. At night you could get a good idea where they are coming from. Heck
just try sighting on a target two hundred yards away without a scope.




Those who were there say otherwise.


The Swift Boat Veterans ARE those that were there.


While it is true they were in Vietnam. The evidence is pretty strong they
weren't very close to Kerry.



How many other veterans do you think received these phoney medals the
Republicans now say exist?


Please peovide a verbatim quote of the statements you are now
misinterpreting.


What an incredibly absurd statement.


Great support you have there. If Kerry was awarded five or six medals
that Republicans now claim he didn't deserve, why would we believe all
the other vets deserved theirs?


What Republicans have said Kerry was awarded five or six medals that he
didn't deserve?

Good question. Who are these people who are making up these stories?


Neocons afraid that they will be defeated in November., the actions of
desperate men grasping at straws.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote

Neocons afraid that they will be defeated in November., the actions of
desperate men grasping at straws.

I don't know what a neocon is, but you use it in all of your messages.

Is this a new mantra word?

Is President Bush a neocon? What makes him a neocon?