Opensource ADS-B?

Jim Logajan wrote:

Not the same thing. License plates and vehicle registrations don't involve
tracking your car's movements.

Au contrair, mon ami. Such technology is being tested today in
several locations in the United States with great success. And the
technology is getting better all the time. New IR laser based devices
can record license plates at a rate of better than 20 per second from
moving vehicles. My brother, who works at the Department of Homeland
Security, tells me that within ten years, in order to better protect
the public from criminals and terrorists, there will be a nationwide
network of automatic license plate recognition (ALPR) devices covering
most major cities and highways. Police cars will also be outfitted
with ALPR devices which will continuously read all license plates
within view and automatically radio-in the time, location, and plate
numbers so read. All the data will be networked nationally in real
time to a central location. You won't be able to drive from your home
to the grocery store without being monitored and logged by the
Homeland Security Freedom Network (HSFN). Some people say that HSFN
is an invasion of privacy but not me. I mean, this is about
protecting the public and securing our freedoms! Get real people.
Besides, the only ones who have anything to fear are the ones who are
doing something wrong. I don't know about you but I'm not doing
anything wrong; I never do anything wrong. That's why I'm happy that
the Department of Homeland Security will be so keenly watching over us
and protecting us. Yes, it will be a wonderful, secure, and safe
country. I can't wait!

Manny Goldstein

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EG wrote:

Jim Logajan wrote:

Not the same thing. License plates and vehicle registrations don't involve
tracking your car's movements.

Au contrair, mon ami. Such technology is being tested today in
several locations in the United States with great success.

Which is not the same thing as saying that motor vehicle registration
includes tracking your property's (and your) movement.

Motor vehicle registration is the last remnant of old taxes on your
possessions. It's revenue enhancement, no matter how it's decorated and
packaged.

And the
technology is getting better all the time. New IR laser based devices
can record license plates at a rate of better than 20 per second from
moving vehicles. My brother, who works at the Department of Homeland
Security, tells me that within ten years, in order to better protect
the public from criminals and terrorists, there will be a nationwide
network of automatic license plate recognition (ALPR) devices covering
most major cities and highways. Police cars will also be outfitted
with ALPR devices which will continuously read all license plates
within view and automatically radio-in the time, location, and plate
numbers so read. All the data will be networked nationally in real
time to a central location. You won't be able to drive from your home
to the grocery store without being monitored and logged by the
Homeland Security Freedom Network (HSFN). Some people say that HSFN
is an invasion of privacy but not me. I mean, this is about
protecting the public and securing our freedoms! Get real people.
Besides, the only ones who have anything to fear are the ones who are
doing something wrong. I don't know about you but I'm not doing
anything wrong; I never do anything wrong. That's why I'm happy that
the Department of Homeland Security will be so keenly watching over us
and protecting us. Yes, it will be a wonderful, secure, and safe
country. I can't wait!

Careful you don't do yourself a harm by biting your tongue in your cheek
there, Manny.

"Ed S" wrote in message ...
On Mar 5, 5:38 pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
Ed S wrote:
I searched around a bit and couldn't seem to find any talk about an
opensource implementation of ADS-B (and maybe some open hardware). Has
anyone heard of such a project?

It sounds like a worthy project to keep the prices from Garmin and the
like in check so a opensource applications can be written to use
utilize the underlying ADS-B implementation.

Thanks.

--Ed

Have you heard of any FAA certified open-source hardware? Hell the GPS
is going to have to be WAAS certified you aren't going to get that done
via open source.

The specs are out (from what I have heard) so in theory, a reference
implementation from an outside source put out in open source can be
done. I posted this in homebuilt and never mentioned certified.

Headless GPS WAAS units are cheap now (as low as $50-60) and I would
say are a commodity good. All we would need is a DIY schematic to make
the transceiver, a GPS to plugin, and the accompanying software to
build the outgoing data and interpret the incoming data.

Hope to hear useful responses soon.

Thanks.

--Ed

I am all for an open and inexpensive ADS-B implementation, but I'm confident that we are so deep with FAA muda that
there will never be a reduction in the FAA workforce or budget, so they have to set up some sort of land based person
monitored system. Kinda like saying let's shrink govment spending and personnel 25%. Don't think its ever gonna happen,
sadly.

EG wrote:
That's why I'm happy that
the Department of Homeland Security will be so keenly watching over us
and protecting us. Yes, it will be a wonderful, secure, and safe
country. I can't wait!

A brave new world! Let us all kneel now and pray that DHS keep us from
harm:

Our DHS, who art HQed in D.C.
Hallowed by thy initials.
Thy bureaucracy come.
Thy will be done,
On earth as it is in the national airspace.
Give us this day our daily National Threat Advisory.
And forgive us our controlled airspace incursions,
As we forgive those who fly NORDO.
And lead us not into terrorism,
But deliver us from liberty.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever.
Wilco.

:-)

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:30:54 -0500, EG wrote:

Jim Logajan wrote:

Not the same thing. License plates and vehicle registrations don't involve
tracking your car's movements.

Au contrair, mon ami. Such technology is being tested today in
several locations in the United States with great success. And the
technology is getting better all the time. New IR laser based devices
can record license plates at a rate of better than 20 per second from
moving vehicles. My brother, who works at the Department of Homeland
Security, tells me that within ten years, in order to better protect
the public from criminals and terrorists, there will be a nationwide
network of automatic license plate recognition (ALPR) devices covering
most major cities and highways.

And he would be correct.
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On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:30:54 -0500, EG wrote:

Police cars will also be outfitted
with ALPR devices which will continuously read all license plates
within view and automatically radio-in the time, location, and plate
numbers so read. All the data will be networked nationally in real
time to a central location. You won't be able to drive from your home
to the grocery store without being monitored and logged by the
Homeland Security Freedom Network (HSFN). Some people say that HSFN
is an invasion of privacy but not me. I mean, this is about
protecting the public and securing our freedoms! Get real people.
Besides, the only ones who have anything to fear are the ones who are
doing something wrong. I don't know about you but I'm not doing
anything wrong; I never do anything wrong. That's why I'm happy that
the Department of Homeland Security will be so keenly watching over us
and protecting us. Yes, it will be a wonderful, secure, and safe
country. I can't wait!

Manny Goldstein

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