Replacing Battered POH

My 66 180C POH was seeing better days, but was still in readable condition.
I scanned it into my computer and using a software utility called clickbook
printed it in book format (2 pages per letter size page and both sides) and
put it into a small loose leaf binder. I also copied the PIH, all the 337s,
W&B and other official paperwork. Now I have 2 (actually 3 if you count the
original which is in my firebox with my logs) copies and the are totally
legible and maintainable.

You might try doing the same thing

Tom

"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
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How does one go about replacing a POH in poor condition with another
"official" copy? I've been contemplating slowly re-doing the POH for my
Warrior but nixed the idea not knowing the regs.

A Google search showed up negative on this query.

Marco





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In article , "James M. Knox"
wrote:


Yes, make another call and make sure that you are getting a POH -- i.e.
it will have YOUR serial number in it. Maybe they have gotten
reasonable on their prices, but somehow I doubt it. The $33 does seem
quite reasonable for the non-seralized version of the POH, but that is
not a legal replacement.

I finally got over to my airplane. The replacement POH I bought
from Piper has my serial number on it.

--
Bob Noel

I was thinking about that and I actually did that for the page in worst
condition (the cover page with the serial number). I'm not sure as to its
legality since it is a reproduction.



"Tom Nery" wrote in message
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My 66 180C POH was seeing better days, but was still in readable
condition.
I scanned it into my computer and using a software utility called
clickbook
printed it in book format (2 pages per letter size page and both sides)
and
put it into a small loose leaf binder. I also copied the PIH, all the
337s,
W&B and other official paperwork. Now I have 2 (actually 3 if you count
the
original which is in my firebox with my logs) copies and the are totally
legible and maintainable.

You might try doing the same thing

Tom

"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
...
How does one go about replacing a POH in poor condition with another
"official" copy? I've been contemplating slowly re-doing the POH for my
Warrior but nixed the idea not knowing the regs.

A Google search showed up negative on this query.

Marco





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Yes, I do have a POH and not a PIM. I fly a 1978 Piper Warrior II. I called
Piper in Vero Beach Florida and the rep told me a replacement POH with the
serial number is under $100. He still has to get back to me though.

Marco


"James M. Knox" wrote in message
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"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in
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My cover page with the serial number is actually the worst page and I
did make a photocopy as you said keeping the original at home. I
called Piper and asked for a replacement POH. They quoted me $33 for
part number 761-619. Since it had a part number, I thought it was an
official replacement but your $400 price quote makes me think twice.

Yes, make another call and make sure that you are getting a POH -- i.e.
it will have YOUR serial number in it. Maybe they have gotten
reasonable on their prices, but somehow I doubt it. The $33 does seem
quite reasonable for the non-seralized version of the POH, but that is
not a legal replacement.

One possible issue another poster raised? Do you actually HAVE a POH?
What year is your plane? It may be that all they have is a PIM and not
a POH. I don't recall exactly what year they changed over, mid-70's or
a little earlier.

Lastly, the question asked about a photocopy. No, I don't know of any
FAA ruling about photocopies of the POH pages - meaning each FSDO makes
it up as they go along. I suspect most ramp check guys won't care.
True, having the original at home is of no legal bearing, but it does
allow you to (should it EVER come up) put it back in the plane. Just
don't throw it away. [Laminate the durn thing, if you want to.]



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James M. Knox
TriSoft ph 512-385-0316
1109-A Shady Lane fax 512-366-4331
Austin, Tx 78721
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For a hundred bucks, make up a cheat sheet(s) with the pertinent info for
operation, v speeds, W/B, etc. to keep in the side pocket...

Put the tattered remains of the POH in a zip lock baggie and stuff it in
with the other documents... The rules say there must be a POH, period...
There is not one regulation regarding condition... Spend the other $99 on
something you need...
denny

"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
...
Yes, I do have a POH and not a PIM. I fly a 1978 Piper Warrior II. I
called
Piper in Vero Beach Florida and the rep told me a replacement POH with the
serial number is under $100. He still has to get back to me though.

Marco


"James M. Knox" wrote in message
...
"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in
:

My cover page with the serial number is actually the worst page and I
did make a photocopy as you said keeping the original at home. I
called Piper and asked for a replacement POH. They quoted me $33 for
part number 761-619. Since it had a part number, I thought it was an
official replacement but your $400 price quote makes me think twice.

Yes, make another call and make sure that you are getting a POH -- i.e.
it will have YOUR serial number in it. Maybe they have gotten
reasonable on their prices, but somehow I doubt it. The $33 does seem
quite reasonable for the non-seralized version of the POH, but that is
not a legal replacement.

One possible issue another poster raised? Do you actually HAVE a POH?
What year is your plane? It may be that all they have is a PIM and not
a POH. I don't recall exactly what year they changed over, mid-70's or
a little earlier.

Lastly, the question asked about a photocopy. No, I don't know of any
FAA ruling about photocopies of the POH pages - meaning each FSDO makes
it up as they go along. I suspect most ramp check guys won't care.
True, having the original at home is of no legal bearing, but it does
allow you to (should it EVER come up) put it back in the plane. Just
don't throw it away. [Laminate the durn thing, if you want to.]



-----------------------------------------------
James M. Knox
TriSoft ph 512-385-0316
1109-A Shady Lane fax 512-366-4331
Austin, Tx 78721
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