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A four-place Cirrus crashed yesterday near Greenwood, SC. There were
not many details in the paper this morning. There were four on board, all killed. It went down in a wooded area near a golf course shortly after takeoff. There was no mention of a parachute deployment. They had arrived a few hours before for a business meeting and did not refuel before takeoff, but in the picture it appeared that the aircraft was destroyed by fire after impact so there must have been fuel on board. |
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What is it about these that has them involved in so many
crashes? Are they that difficult to fly? Are there some gotchas with them? "James L. Freeman" wrote in message om... A four-place Cirrus crashed yesterday near Greenwood, SC. There were not many details in the paper this morning. There were four on board, all killed. It went down in a wooded area near a golf course shortly after takeoff. There was no mention of a parachute deployment. They had arrived a few hours before for a business meeting and did not refuel before takeoff, but in the picture it appeared that the aircraft was destroyed by fire after impact so there must have been fuel on board. |
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"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
What is it about these that has them involved in so many crashes? Are they that difficult to fly? Are there some gotchas with them? Rusty pilots? ![]() -- John T http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415 ____________________ |
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"John T" wrote in message
ws.com... "Otis Winslow" wrote in message What is it about these that has them involved in so many crashes? Are they that difficult to fly? Are there some gotchas with them? Rusty pilots? ![]() -- John T http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer http://www.pocketgear.com/products_s...veloperid=4415 ____________________ Slick airframe, glass cockpit with an analog pilot and a goofy side-stick are a few problems. A good plane for wannabe airline pilots who don't like to look out the windows. "Stall? It dosen't say on this here tv screen that I'm in a stall... Whoops, wrong channel..." Quality control seems to be on par with Lightspeed, meaning they're in the shop more than a British car. They look good and are very comfortable. But it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and couldn't wait to be back on the ground. |
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it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and couldn't wait to be back on the ground. Wow, you're the only person I've ever heard say *THAT* about the Cirrus. What didn't you like about the way it flew? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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I haven't said it quite as strongly as that, but it was kind of
how I felt after my SR20 experiences. OTOH the SR22 is a different kettle of fish, at least it has enough power. The sidestick is honestly no big deal, although the fact that the electric trim is so fast you can't trim the plane for hands-off flying (and therefore have to use the autopilot) IS. I'm baffled by why the loss rate is so high for this airplane. My wife's theory - which I am too polite to repeat - is that the plane attracts the wrong kind of pilot. Honestly it's just about like any other plane to fly, it has its idiosyncracies but they're no big deal. In any case if they carry on going down at the present rate they'll soon be uninsurable. John "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:vighc.35327$yD1.101224@attbi_s54... But it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and couldn't wait to be back on the ground. Wow, you're the only person I've ever heard say *THAT* about the Cirrus. What didn't you like about the way it flew? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:vighc.35327$yD1.101224@attbi_s54... But it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and couldn't wait to be back on the ground. Wow, you're the only person I've ever heard say *THAT* about the Cirrus. What didn't you like about the way it flew? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" It seemed heavy on the controls requiring a lot of thumb action on the trim to make it bearable. The stick is too far to the side making it similar to trying to fly using your door handle. It's more natural to have your hands towards the center, like a center stick or yoke, instead of having just one way out to the side. I find the side stick gives you a very detached and somewhat helpless feeling. Like enjoying the ride is more important than the actual flying. If the electric trim failed, imagine reaching across to get your right hand on the stick. Thank god for the parachute, because I wouldn't want to have to horse that thing through some emergency maneuver. The feeling I get flying a Cirrus is the same I can get if I played MSFS while sitting in a lazyboy. In these things PIC means "pilot in cirrus" because you sure as hell aren't in "command" The glass panel, however wiz-bang cool, is more distracting than it is useful. And no, I don't want to look down at my knees to see the analog backups. Maybe if I learned on something like that I'd be used to it. The big moving map is great, I've gotta shoehorn one of them into my Musketeer, but gimmie a panel full of dials for my primary instruments anyday. It's possible for them to make it more friendly to pilots who want to be more active in flight, instead of catering to the ijustgottapilotslicenseandmyothercarisamercedes crowd. But they go where the money is. I'm sure not all Cirrus owners are the Tom Cruise, Top Gun type, but all that I've met are. Maybe this has something to do with the accident stats. If I win one in a raffle I'll trade you even for your Pathfinder. ;-) |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:vighc.35327$yD1.101224@attbi_s54... But it's the only airplane I've ever flown that I can say I truly hated and couldn't wait to be back on the ground. Wow, you're the only person I've ever heard say *THAT* about the Cirrus. What didn't you like about the way it flew? It fly's like a car with bald tires drives on ice. |
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