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Old October 4th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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CAP COMMANDER SACKED
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196279)
The Board of Governors of the Civil Air Patrol has stripped the
organization's suspended commander, Maj. Gen. Tony Pineda, of his
rank, position and membership after investigating allegations that a
member of CAP's Florida unit took U.S. Air Force Command and Staff
College tests on Pineda's behalf in 2002 and 2003. Pineda was
suspended in early August after the allegations came to light and the
board of governors decided to formally investigate them. "This action
was taken after careful review of the facts and circumstances and
after numerous discussions of the report of the investigation against
Gen. Pineda," Maj. Gen. Richard Bowling, chairman of the board of
governors, said in a news release. Brig. Gen. Amy Courter, CAP's
deputy commander, assumed command during Pineda's suspension and will
continue in that role until August of 2008 when the board of governors
will convene to elect a new commander. Courter can run.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196279
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Old October 4th 07, 06:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Oct 4, 4:54 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
CAP COMMANDER SACKED
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196279)
The Board of Governors of the Civil Air Patrol has stripped the


I guess it shows how well run CAP is that there were no disruptions to
any missions as a result of this.

-Robert

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Old October 4th 07, 08:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

CAP COMMANDER SACKED



I guess it shows how well run CAP is that there were no disruptions to
any missions as a result of this.


Or how superfluous the top brass is.

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Dan
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Old October 4th 07, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gatt
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Oct 4, 4:54 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
CAP COMMANDER SACKED
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196279)
The Board of Governors of the Civil Air Patrol has stripped the


I guess it shows how well run CAP is that there were no disruptions to
any missions as a result of this.


Who knows what organizational weaknesses might have developed, though.

"Maj. Gen. Tony Pineda, of his rank, position and membership after
investigating allegations that a member of CAP's Florida unit took U.S. Air
Force Command and Staff College tests on Pineda's behalf in 2002 and 2003.
Pineda was suspended in early August after the allegations came to light and
the board of governors decided to formally investigate them." - AVWeb

"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does." -
U.S. Air Force Academy Honor Code


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Old October 4th 07, 11:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Civil Air Patrol Commander's Corruption

On Oct 4, 2:15 pm, "Gatt" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in glegroups.com...


"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does." -
U.S. Air Force Academy Honor Code


Apparently, as evidenced by the fact that he was relieved of command.

-Robert

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Old October 6th 07, 06:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
M[_1_]
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"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does." -
U.S. Air Force Academy Honor Code


Apparently, as evidenced by the fact that he was relieved of command.


And it took 5 years for him to be sacked? Someone at CAP must have
known this, either tolerated it or being silenced.

Organizations that are self righteous often produces some of the worst
corruption. That's true for both the left and the right.

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Old October 6th 07, 06:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Clear
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In article . com,
M wrote:

"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does." -
U.S. Air Force Academy Honor Code


Apparently, as evidenced by the fact that he was relieved of command.


And it took 5 years for him to be sacked? Someone at CAP must have
known this, either tolerated it or being silenced.


I used to run CAP-Talk, an unofficial CAP mailing list. I haven't
run it since 2002, and the commander who was just sacked was in
charge of Florida (IIRC) back then, and people where complaining
frequently about his corruption/etc. Granted, the folks on CAP-Talk
had an axe to grind, but there seemed to be enough there to warrant
an investigation. Instead, CAP National HQ promoted him. CAP
National HQ has a history of incompetence at best, with frequent
rumors of more serious issues.

The incompetent leadership at many levels was one of the reasons
I left CAP.

John
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Old October 4th 07, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
GeorgeC[_2_]
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I thought Pineda was a retired Florida Cop not USAF. Am I wrong?

On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:15:10 -0700, "Gatt" wrote:


"We will not lie, steal or cheat, nor tolerate among us anyone who does." -
U.S. Air Force Academy Honor Code


GeorgeC
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Old October 5th 07, 06:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Oct 4, 3:33 pm, GeorgeC wrote:
I thought Pineda was a retired Florida Cop not USAF. Am I wrong?


Both. He was a member of the USAF Auxillary most recently.

-Robert

 




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