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Old April 27th 05, 03:50 PM
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Being a Rotax 912s driver, and being as how the Rotax prefers premium
automobile fuel, I have been searching for places that serve automobile gas
that are accessable to airplanes. I'm not having much luck.

So, does anyone know of a database that tracks availability of MOGAS for
aviation use?

thanks,
tom pettit
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Old April 27th 05, 04:34 PM
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Markus Voget wrote:

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So, does anyone know of a database that tracks availability of MOGAS
for aviation use?



You did not specify your region, so I might as well give a shot...

MOGAS maps for German and Austrian airfields can be found at
http://eddh.de/equipment/kniebrett.html


http://airnav.com/fuel/local.html

Just select the fuel of choice:
Jet A, 100LL Avgas, 80/87 Avgas, Mogas (auto)
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Old April 27th 05, 07:30 PM
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Be VERY careful depending on that feature of Airnav. Most of the places
that list "mogas" don't list a price, have irregular or spotty hours of
attendance, or very well may be mom n pop airparks.

If you plan on using these listed fields, CALL AHEAD and confirm. You
very well may just do better refilling with blue stuff when away from home.

I'm going to be running a Mazda Rotary engine in a Velocity, and the
fuel issue is one that I've looked at several times. I plan on using
100LL when fueling out.

Dave

Darrel Toepfer wrote:
Markus Voget wrote:

wrote:


So, does anyone know of a database that tracks availability of MOGAS
for aviation use?




You did not specify your region, so I might as well give a shot...

MOGAS maps for German and Austrian airfields can be found at
http://eddh.de/equipment/kniebrett.html



http://airnav.com/fuel/local.html

Just select the fuel of choice:
Jet A, 100LL Avgas, 80/87 Avgas, Mogas (auto)


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Old April 27th 05, 07:48 PM
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"Dave S" wrote in message
k.net...
Be VERY careful depending on that feature of Airnav. Most of the places
that list "mogas" don't list a price, have irregular or spotty hours of
attendance, or very well may be mom n pop airparks.

If you plan on using these listed fields, CALL AHEAD and confirm. You very
well may just do better refilling with blue stuff when away from home.

I'm going to be running a Mazda Rotary engine in a Velocity, and the fuel
issue is one that I've looked at several times. I plan on using 100LL when
fueling out.


Make that last idea a *must*, Dave. You don't know what you are getting out
of a strange mogas tank. It may be 100° out and that mogas could've been
sitting in the tank since winter. My commandments read:
1. Never use mogas from an unfamiliar source.
2. Always test for alcohol.
3. Never use mogas above 5,000' density altitude.
4. Always check for water.
5. Never use mogas above 80° F.

Remember - 100 LL can foul a spark plug. Mogas can boil, give you vapor
lock, and stop your engine RFN. Which would you prefer? Would you like fries
with that?

Rich S.


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Old April 27th 05, 08:48 PM
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Rich S. wrote:
Make that last idea a *must*, Dave. You don't know what you are

getting out
of a strange mogas tank. It may be 100° out and that mogas could've been
sitting in the tank since winter. My commandments read:
1. Never use mogas from an unfamiliar source.
2. Always test for alcohol.
3. Never use mogas above 5,000' density altitude.
4. Always check for water.
5. Never use mogas above 80° F.

Remember - 100 LL can foul a spark plug. Mogas can boil, give you vapor
lock, and stop your engine RFN. Which would you prefer? Would you like fries
with that?

Rich S.


Dude... I'm using mogas because I'm using a MO-engine. I've driven cars
at over 5000 ft (Lake Tahoe.. 9000 ft) MSL.. and in temps over 100* F...
and alcohol wont hurt MY engine because the seals in it and the fuel
system are DESIGNED to use motor gas in all of its domestic
forumulations. I think some of those "absolutes" you are listing are
overkill.

I will be using fuel injected engine with an automotive fuel rail
regulated at 40 PSI over upper deck pressure..through a recirculating
fuel circut with firesleeved hoses. I don't think vapor lock is gonna be
the issue here. I'm just planning on using 100LL because I dont want to
land on a 2000 ft sod strip 40 miles from the nearest town of over
50,000 people. I'm into flying to travel to where the people are

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Old April 28th 05, 03:34 AM
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Rich S. wrote:


Make that last idea a *must*, Dave. You don't know what you are getting out
of a strange mogas tank. It may be 100° out and that mogas could've been
sitting in the tank since winter. My commandments read:
1. Never use mogas from an unfamiliar source.
2. Always test for alcohol.
3. Never use mogas above 5,000' density altitude.
4. Always check for water.
5. Never use mogas above 80° F.



Funny stuff, if it wasn't so assinine.
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Old April 28th 05, 03:59 PM
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1. Never use mogas from an unfamiliar source.

At an airport? That's crazy. From a car gas station? Absolutely.

2. Always test for alcohol.


Good idea, if you don't know the source.

3. Never use mogas above 5,000' density altitude.


Nonsense.

4. Always check for water.


Absolutely. Same with avgas.

5. Never use mogas above 80° F.


That's ridiculous.

Our plane has run on mogas (Lycoming O-540) since we bought it in 2002. The
previous owner ran it on mogas for over ten years.

The ONLY time I've EVER had engine trouble has been while operating with 100
LL -- which has far more lead in it than my engine was designed to run on.

I would use car gas if it cost MORE than avgas -- that's how much better my
plane runs on it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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