$98 per barrel oil

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
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kontiki wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

in actual fact, by just about every index going your purchasing
power
is vastly greater than at any period in the past.



Give some examples of how my purchasing power is increased as the
value of the dollar decreases? Remember its a global economy.


Well, let's see, people make more money and stuff costs less.

If the dollar goes down, a lot of stuff costs more for them (merkins).
Imported stuff, domestic stuff which uses imported parts, and travel
abroad (which is also sorta "import" from the POV of the tourist's
country - you buy foreign services with your domestic money, except
you
consume them on location instead of having them delivered).

OTOH it's good for their exporters, because their prices appear to go
down for foreign customers.

From the EUR POV it's the reverse.

True.

That has little to do with the standard of living in the long term,
though.

and that was the point you snipped from the beginning of the discussion,
decinding instead to focus on the spurious fallacy of temporal exchange
fluctuations instead.


Bertie

Bertie you need to tell your doctor to increase the dosage.

Do I now?

what do you think I should tell the doc to prescribe, a little of Huxley's
Soma?

Actually, a couple of shots of green chartreuse oughta loosen you up a
bit.

On second thought, maybe that's a bad idea...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote in
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Bertie you need to tell your doctor to increase the dosage.

Do I now?

what do you think I should tell the doc to prescribe, a little of
Huxley's Soma?

Actually, a couple of shots of green chartreuse oughta loosen you up a
bit.

I'm plenty loose.


On second thought, maybe that's a bad idea...


I think so. I don't drink crap.


Bertie

Alas, Jimmy Carter had the chance to fix this problem way back in
1979...
--

Yeah, but whiney assholes like you stoped that, didncha?

In 1979 I was a sophomore at the University of Wisconsin, majoring in
English at the time. Even then, as a young, idealistic left-leaning
college student, I knew that the peanut farmer from Georgia was
screwing the pooch with Iran.

If Carter had done something -- ANYTHING -- to right the hostage
crisis, our current situation with radical Islam would be very
different. Instead, he did...worse than nothing, and 28 years later
we're facing a nuclear-armed Iran, run by the same idiots that hog-
tied our diplomats for over 440 days.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote in news:1194473157.386541.84410
@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

Alas, Jimmy Carter had the chance to fix this problem way back in
1979...
--

Yeah, but whiney assholes like you stoped that, didncha?

In 1979 I was a sophomore at the University of Wisconsin, majoring in
English at the time. Even then, as a young, idealistic left-leaning
college student, I knew that the peanut farmer from Georgia was
screwing the pooch with Iran.

If Carter had done something -- ANYTHING -- to right the hostage
crisis, our current situation with radical Islam would be very
different. Instead, he did...worse than nothing, and 28 years later
we're facing a nuclear-armed Iran, run by the same idiots that hog-
tied our diplomats for over 440 days.
--


Oh brother


Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote in news:1194473157.386541.84410
@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

Alas, Jimmy Carter had the chance to fix this problem way back in
1979...
--

Yeah, but whiney assholes like you stoped that, didncha?

In 1979 I was a sophomore at the University of Wisconsin, majoring in
English at the time. Even then, as a young, idealistic left-leaning
college student, I knew that the peanut farmer from Georgia was
screwing the pooch with Iran.

If Carter had done something -- ANYTHING -- to right the hostage
crisis, our current situation with radical Islam would be very
different. Instead, he did...worse than nothing, and 28 years later
we're facing a nuclear-armed Iran, run by the same idiots that hog-
tied our diplomats for over 440 days.
--


A paraphrase, Can't remember if it's Huxley, Orwell or Wells, but if
serious history ceases to be taught and the pursuit of the trivial by an
otherwise sophisticated society is central to a society, then they are
truly lost.


This being usenent, I'm sure someone will correct me, but it won't be you,
methinks.


Bertie

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Maybe with another million troops we could occupy both Iran and Iraq
and get a special deal.

Don't worry. In 12 months we'll have Hillary pulling us out (literally
and figuaratively) of the Middle East, and then our kids will be
forced to return to fight the Islamo-Fascist Iranians in another
decade or two -- only by then they'll have nukes.

Alas, Jimmy Carter had the chance to fix this problem way back in
1979...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



As in the words of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "We Don't Need To Build/Develop A
Nuclear Weapon" I can understand him saying that becuse he can get one from
one of his many friends like Kim Il Sung and others Like Fidel Castro, Hugo
Chaves, And Vladimir Putin. I am sure or "un" intelligent goverment had seen
what happned last month, Simple form! Ahmadinejad leaves U.S. for Vensuala
to visit Chaves then after Castro Returns form another growing
Muslim/Islamic country "Angola" visits with Chaves? Hummm!!!!!!!! Can we say
plot thickens 90 miles off our border!

Arm yourself while you still can your/our goverment will not protect you or
your family unless your a major corperation/banker!

Jay Honeck wrote in news:1194466141.514812.211060
@z9g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

The worst part is I dont see any end in sight.

Yeah, it's pretty funny when the Left cries that we're "In Iraq only
for the cheap oil!"

Damn, if this is the "cheap" oil, imagine how bad it would be if we
hadn't taken out Saddam?

Oh, well. High gas prices should really help Light Sport sales, with
those tiny little engines sipping 4 gph...


Do you really think our role in Iraq currently holds any positive impact on
the price of oil?

The price of oil right now is driven totally by near-monopolistic supply
and demand curves. They raise the prices during holidays and higher usage
periods (like the first cold week of winter) to reap the most significant
profits, and then back off just enough so that no one is really inspired to
really convert everything to used wok oil.

If Saddam were still in power in Iraq, he would be getting Halliburton's
cut of the action. That's about the only difference I see.

If anything, the war in Iraq was one of the catalysts for the oil companies
to start this cycle... Between vengefulness, and a real (although probably
artificially inflated) shortage caused by all of the oil fires, OPEC raised
the price. The reaction they saw was a big profit increase, and a small
grumbling, but no other significant consequences.

I wish I could do the same with my products...

On Nov 7, 1:05 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Don't worry. In 12 months we'll have Hillary pulling us out (literally
and figuaratively) of the Middle East, and then our kids will be
forced to return to fight the Islamo-Fascist Iranians in another
decade or two -- only by then they'll have nukes.

--
Jay Honeck
Jay,
you belong on grumpyoldwhiteguys.com
KFBaum

On Nov 7, 12:15 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Yeah, but whiney assholes like you stoped that, didncha?

luscky thing Reagan came along to fund Osama, eh?

Bertie

Oh wow a politics thread with Bertie participating, let me in on this!!