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Old April 8th 04, 12:56 PM
Jay Honeck
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From AvWeb:

"If you're planning on flying into Lakeland, Fla., for Sun 'n Fun, be on the
alert for large formation skydiving over Zephyrhills Airport between April
14 and April 18, sunrise to sunset. Zephyrhills (ZPH) is located 16 nautical
miles northwest of Lakeland, on Lakeland's 332-degree radial. The airport
will be the site of a world record attempt involving 140 skydivers and seven
jump aircraft. Getting caught in the middle could prove ... messy."

We are planning to fly into Sun N Fun next week. Last year we were forced
to land short, because the field was closed -- and Zephyr Hills was the most
logical airport when coming from the north. It was an absolute zoo getting
in there, because EVERYONE was stuck doing the same thing.

Now they're going to try to stick 140 skydivers into this mix? I'm having
a hard time visualizing 20 aircraft coming into land -- at an uncontrolled
field -- with 140 meat-bombs under canopy... Seems like they might have
tried to find a better location and/or time for this record attempt?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 8th 04, 03:07 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Seems like they might have
tried to find a better location and/or time for this record attempt?


They're probably saying the same thing about Sun'n Fun. With just as much
justification.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".
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Old April 8th 04, 03:14 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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They're probably saying the same thing about Sun'n Fun. With just
as much justification.


Hmmm...., hasn't Sun 'n Fun been at that same location for some 25 years or
so?


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Old April 8th 04, 03:19 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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They're probably saying the same thing about Sun'n Fun. With just
as much justification.


Hmmm...., hasn't Sun 'n Fun been at that same location for some 25 years or
so?


And similar lines about airports and housing developments haven't worked in at least
that long.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".
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Old April 8th 04, 03:29 PM
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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And similar lines about airports and housing developments
haven't worked in at least that long.


The point was about justification. It is not equal.


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Old April 8th 04, 03:34 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

The point was about justification. It is not equal.


I disagree.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".
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Old April 8th 04, 07:18 PM
Roger Halstead
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 14:14:48 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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They're probably saying the same thing about Sun'n Fun. With just
as much justification.


Hmmm...., hasn't Sun 'n Fun been at that same location for some 25 years or
so?


And I believe the jump schools at Zypher Hills as well.

They are worried about 140 jumpers in the air. Another figure to
consider is on a 10 hour day you can expect over 2,000 if they run 220
an hour That is assuming they are still running at the rate they
were the last time I was down there, but that was a few years back.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


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Old April 9th 04, 04:35 AM
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"Roger Halstead" wrote in message And I believe the jump schools at
Zypher Hills as well.


Jumpers were at ZPH before Sun-n-Fun was at LAL. ZPH lies under a Victor
airway (which is one of only 2 victor airways into South Florida without
going into Class B airspace). There is a parachute next to ZHP on the
sectional. Notams are routinely issued IAW FARs.

It may be nuts to those who choose to sensationalize it. Realistically, it
happens most weekends.

Now then, who has the right-of-way, the plane or the jumper?

D.


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Old April 9th 04, 12:17 PM
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"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
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Now then, who has the right-of-way, the plane or the jumper?


The plane.


§ 105.5 General.
No person may conduct a parachute operation, and no pilot in command of an
aircraft may allow a parachute operation to be conducted from an aircraft,
if that operation creates a hazard to air traffic or to persons or property
on the surface.


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Old April 13th 04, 02:39 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ink.net...
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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They're probably saying the same thing about Sun'n Fun. With just
as much justification.


Hmmm...., hasn't Sun 'n Fun been at that same location for some 25 years or
so?


Not a very good argument. Z-Hills has had continuous skydiving
operations there since the mid-60's. During it's heyday some
considered it "the" premier
"drop-zone" in the world. Also, the jump center is a business and the
time of year around Easter has historically been one of it's busiest
seasons. We skydivers like to get along with pilots. Can't jump
without them. :-) (just my humble opinion!)
 




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