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Rather than buying an Arrow, perhaps you'd want to look at a Mooney.
I've had both and like the Mooney better hands down. The Mooney has a MUCH simpler gear system with less headaches. The cabin width is the same. The cabin length is the same (both Mooney and Piper added an extra 10 inches in the late 60's early 70's). If you compare Arrows to Mooneys of the same year, the only difference is the Mooney is going 15 knots faster and can fly higher. You're flying behind the same O-360 or IO-360 engine, same prop etc. The Mooney has a stronger airframe but still usually gives you around 1000 lbs of useful load (don't talk about full fuel, its not Mooney's fault that they can carry extra fuel). All the silly stories you hear about the Mooney turn out to be false. They are not harder to fly. They are *NOT* harder for tall pilots (I'm 6'4" and actually think I have more leg room in the Mooney). The back seat size is 100% the same (comparing same years). I've had 4 large guys in my plane, and even sat in the back and its doable (although tight). All in all the Mooney is just a bit better, kinda like a Cherokee is a bit better than a 172. The Mooney can come down the ILS at 737 speeds when necessary for busy airports too (I actually had to slow for one once!!). -Robert, CFI |
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I know it's frustrating. It took us several months of "shopping" to find
our Arrow about 7 years ago. Turned out to be an excellent buy for us. I might make a suggestion that could save you some grief. If you are considering an airplane some distance from your home, pay a local mechanic for an hour's time to just have a look at the plane and call you back with an oral report. The idea is to screen out an obvious dog before you invest time and money on a visit and formal pre-buy. We used this practice when shopping for our Arrow, and it saved me from making two needless trips. If the seller hesitates to allow a potential buyer's representative (the mechanic) to inspect the plane, well, then you already have your answer. -- -Elliott Drucker |
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Hey, I'll tell you a story. Actually happened. Jack was running an FBO.
He maintained a Cessna 337 for a doctor. Doctor wants to sell and asks Jack to sell it, Jack gets a comission. So a guy comes down from 800 miles away and checks the plane out, says yes I'll take it. Gives Jack a $10K deposit with $120K to be paid upon delivery. Buyer flies home. So Jack gets one of his instructors to deliver the plane, with instructions to pick up the check and fly commercial back. So this instructor flies the 337 to the buyers home field. Buyer gives him an envelope with one of those glasseen windows in it with a Cashiers check in it. Instructor flies back with the check. Jack takes the check out. You know how when they issue a Cashiers check they give you a carbon copy? Well, it's the carbon copy, not the check! So Jack figures honest mistake and calls the buyer and says "we've got to talk about how you are going to get us the check for the airplane". Buyer says, "No, what we're going to talk about is how much I'm going to pay you for the airplane". There is an ending to this story. |
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"Doug" writes:
Hey, I'll tell you a story. Actually happened. Jack was running an FBO. He maintained a Cessna 337 for a doctor. Doctor wants to sell and asks Jack to sell it, Jack gets a comission. So a guy comes down from 800 miles away and checks the plane out, says yes I'll take it. Gives Jack a $10K deposit with $120K to be paid upon delivery. Buyer flies home. So Jack gets one of his instructors to deliver the plane, with instructions to pick up the check and fly commercial back. So this instructor flies the 337 to the buyers home field. Buyer gives him an envelope with one of those glasseen windows in it with a Cashiers check in it. Instructor flies back with the check. Jack takes the check out. You know how when they issue a Cashiers check they give you a carbon copy? Well, it's the carbon copy, not the check! So Jack figures honest mistake and calls the buyer and says "we've got to talk about how you are going to get us the check for the airplane". Buyer says, "No, what we're going to talk about is how much I'm going to pay you for the airplane". There is an ending to this story. What is it? -jav |
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FWIW, I'm not the Jack in this story. :-)
-- Jack Allison PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Buying Student "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return" - Leonardo Da Vinci (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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No purchase contract? No escrow agent?
Somebody ain't too smart. "Doug" wrote in message ups.com... Hey, I'll tell you a story. Actually happened. Jack was running an FBO. He maintained a Cessna 337 for a doctor. Doctor wants to sell and asks Jack to sell it, Jack gets a comission. So a guy comes down from 800 miles away and checks the plane out, says yes I'll take it. Gives Jack a $10K deposit with $120K to be paid upon delivery. Buyer flies home. So Jack gets one of his instructors to deliver the plane, with instructions to pick up the check and fly commercial back. So this instructor flies the 337 to the buyers home field. Buyer gives him an envelope with one of those glasseen windows in it with a Cashiers check in it. Instructor flies back with the check. Jack takes the check out. You know how when they issue a Cashiers check they give you a carbon copy? Well, it's the carbon copy, not the check! So Jack figures honest mistake and calls the buyer and says "we've got to talk about how you are going to get us the check for the airplane". Buyer says, "No, what we're going to talk about is how much I'm going to pay you for the airplane". There is an ending to this story. |
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They had a purchase contract. No escrow though. What happened, is the
doctor who owned the plane took the "check" to the president of the local bank. He called the president of the purchasers bank, who said "heh, heh, yes, I know that guy, He can't do that. We'll treat it like a lost check and reissue you another one". So they got paid. And that's the REST of the story. |
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