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Old February 13th 07, 12:56 AM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
Gernot Hassenpflug
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

"Mark Test" writes:

wrote in message
oups.com...
Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Despite denials, Pentagon plans for possible attack on nuclear sites
are well advanced

Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian

Hey nomorewar.....what are you doing to prevent Iran from
buildings nukes? It seems to me you want Iran to go nuclear....

Do you really believe Iran has peaceful intentions? We all lose
if the mid-east goes nuclear....


It just postpones the inevitable. Think of it like this: if a country,
under proper guidance, develops nuclear power (and weaponry) they have
a strong infrastructure, education and scientific community to handle
it. Compare this with a country importing weapons from somewhere else
out of desperation. Which do you think is going to make a "mistake"
first? The developed nations cannot forever pretend that they are the
arbiters for the rest of the world, even if some in their populations
believe this.
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Old February 13th 07, 01:00 AM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
Gernot Hassenpflug
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Michael Wise writes:

In article ,
Defendario wrote:

Michael Wise wrote:
In article ,
"David Nicholls" wrote:

The mid-east is already nuclear (Isreal) - it is the appearance of a
balance
that appears to worry the US.

That and the fact that officials in the Iranian government (from the top
down) have repeatedly made public comments that various countries (such
as Israel) should be wiped off the map.


You make that sound like a *bad* thing...



Are you saying that the guaranteed nuclear counter response and
resulting regional death, destruction, and nuclear fallout around the
world are good things?


Guaranteed nuclear response is what kept the cold war from becoming
too hot in the developed nations for half a century. The wars went on
in other countries with all manner of other weapons, with resulting
death and injuiries by the tens of millions. I don't think you're
making a good point in isolating "nuclear" from "non-nuclear"
here. The fact that developed countries might suffer if many nations
obtain deliverable powerful weapons is about the only thing that
worries them. IMHO its a good thing, since it will bring out statemen
with wider vision, and force all nations to make greater efforts to
cooperate, and not merely divide the world into something along the
lines of the G8 and all the others.

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Old February 13th 07, 03:47 AM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

"David Nicholls" wrote in message
...
The mid-east is already nuclear (Isreal) - it is the appearance of a

balance
that appears to worry the US.

David

Cite where Israel has nukes, or has ever threatened anyone with nukes.
A nuclear Iran will not create balance...




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Old February 13th 07, 01:35 PM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

On Feb 12, 4:24*am, wrote:
On 2月11日, 上午6时26分, wrote:

Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring


Despite denials, Pentagon plans for possible attack on nuclear sites
are well advanced


Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian


http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2010086,00.html...


Stop the Coming Iran War (for Israel) Before It Starts:


http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=67774


really? I don` t think the US will attack Iran.Iran has a powerful
army after all.
If the US attack Iron ,Iron might use the missle attack the base or
the carrier of United States.
I don`t think Americans like to see this situation


If they are going to attack a CV, they gotta find it first..no assets
I know of to do that.

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Old February 13th 07, 06:11 PM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Mark Test wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Despite denials, Pentagon plans for possible attack on nuclear sites
are well advanced

Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian


Hey nomorewar.....what are you doing to prevent Iran from
buildings nukes? It seems to me you want Iran to go nuclear....

Do you really believe Iran has peaceful intentions? We all lose
if the mid-east goes nuclear....

Mark





Thus Spake: *G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*


The Mid-East is already Nuclear... Israel was the first Mid-East
Nuclear state, without even having to do testing... :-\

_Everything_ in America is "FOR SALE", including the U.S.
Presidential elections.
(Advanced U.S. military thrown in as a rebate) :-)


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  #16  
Old February 19th 07, 07:18 PM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

In article .com,
mumbled
On 211, 6ʱ26, wrote:
Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Despite denials, Pentagon plans for possible attack on nuclear sites
are well advanced

Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2010086,00.html...

Stop the Coming Iran War (for Israel) Before It Starts:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=67774


really? I don` t think the US will attack Iran.Iran has a powerful
army after all.


Iran has lots of people in uniform.
Not a particulary effective army though.


If the US attack Iron ,Iron might use the missle attack the base or
the carrier of United States.


Iran gets most of if not all of her refined petrolium from the other
Gulf countries.
If she attacks them they turn off the fuel.

I don`t think Americans like to see this situation


No wants Iran to be stupid and end up destroyed, except her leaders...



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Old February 19th 07, 07:51 PM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
Mark Borgerson[_2_]
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

In article t,

In article .com,=20
mumbled
On 2=D4=C211=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E76=CA=B126=B7=D6, [email protected]=

o.com wrote:
Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Despite denials, Pentagon plans for possible attack on nuclear sites
are well advanced

Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2010086,00.html...

Stop the Coming Iran War (for Israel) Before It Starts:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=3D67774

=20
really? I don` t think the US will attack Iran.Iran has a powerful
army after all.


Iran has lots of people in uniform.
Not a particulary effective army though.


If the US attack Iron ,Iron might use the missle attack the base or
the carrier of United States.


Iran gets most of if not all of her refined petrolium from the other=20
Gulf countries.
If she attacks them they turn off the fuel.


Not true according to this site:

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntm40816.htm

Iran seems to be a net exporter of kerosene, but a significant importer
of gasoline.

This somewhat dated website says that Iran produces about 1/2 its daily
needs for gasoline:

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com...lent-bomb.html

I don`t think Americans like to see this situation


No wants Iran to be stupid and end up destroyed, except her leaders...




Mark Borgerson

  #18  
Old February 19th 07, 10:15 PM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
David E. Powell
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

On Feb 12, 7:34 pm, Defendario wrote:
Michael Wise wrote:
In article ,
Defendario wrote:


Michael Wise wrote:
In article ,
"David Nicholls" wrote:


The mid-east is already nuclear (Isreal) - it is the appearance of a
balance
that appears to worry the US.
That and the fact that officials in the Iranian government (from the top
down) have repeatedly made public comments that various countries (such
as Israel) should be wiped off the map.


You make that sound like a *bad* thing...


Are you saying that the guaranteed nuclear counter response and
resulting regional death, destruction, and nuclear fallout around the
world are good things?


Iran will recover, but IsReeL will not.


Um... how will Iran recover if there is a nuclear counter strike? They
don't just "repopulate" like a MUD computer game. You are talking
about millions of deaths here.

And that, of course, would be a *good* *thing*


Only if you are a keyboard commando who gets off on the idea of
nuclear holocausts, with zero empathy for anyone who would be caught
in one, or ability to comprehend that the fighting and/or radiation
and killing could spread to the very place you sit right now.

  #19  
Old February 19th 07, 11:58 PM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
Tankfixer
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

In article ,
mumbled
In article t,

In article .com,=20
mumbled
On 2=D4=C211=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E76=CA=B126=B7=D6, [email protected]=

o.com wrote:
Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

Despite denials, Pentagon plans for possible attack on nuclear sites
are well advanced

Ewen MacAskill in Washington
Saturday February 10, 2007
The Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2010086,00.html...

Stop the Coming Iran War (for Israel) Before It Starts:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=3D67774
=20
really? I don` t think the US will attack Iran.Iran has a powerful
army after all.


Iran has lots of people in uniform.
Not a particulary effective army though.


If the US attack Iron ,Iron might use the missle attack the base or
the carrier of United States.


Iran gets most of if not all of her refined petrolium from the other=20
Gulf countries.
If she attacks them they turn off the fuel.


Not true according to this site:

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntm40816.htm

Iran seems to be a net exporter of kerosene, but a significant importer
of gasoline.


Can she sustain her economy on just kerosene though ?



This somewhat dated website says that Iran produces about 1/2 its daily
needs for gasoline:

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com...lent-bomb.html


A study I read authored last summer by Mr Cordesman was the basis of my
claim.
I would assume his data was up to date.



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Old February 20th 07, 01:14 AM posted to us.military.army,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.navy
Defendario
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Default Target Iran: US able to strike in the spring

David E. Powell wrote:
On Feb 12, 7:34 pm, Defendario wrote:
Michael Wise wrote:
In article ,
Defendario wrote:
Michael Wise wrote:
In article ,
"David Nicholls" wrote:
The mid-east is already nuclear (Isreal) - it is the appearance of a
balance
that appears to worry the US.
That and the fact that officials in the Iranian government (from the top
down) have repeatedly made public comments that various countries (such
as Israel) should be wiped off the map.
You make that sound like a *bad* thing...
Are you saying that the guaranteed nuclear counter response and
resulting regional death, destruction, and nuclear fallout around the
world are good things?

Iran will recover, but IsReeL will not.


Um... how will Iran recover if there is a nuclear counter strike? They
don't just "repopulate" like a MUD computer game. You are talking
about millions of deaths here.


Iran is a big country. They can withstand a strike much more robustly
than can Little****tystan, which will be destroyed by non-nuke WMD

And that, of course, would be a *good* *thing*


Only if you are a keyboard commando who gets off on the idea of
nuclear holocausts, with zero empathy for anyone who would be caught
in one, or ability to comprehend that the fighting and/or radiation
and killing could spread to the very place you sit right now.


Then if you are such an advocate of peace, support the removal of the
dangerous and militaristic Bushler Cabal who hold the levers of power.

Touch Persia, death to IsReeL

Peace = survival

Choose wisely



 




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