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Old October 15th 03, 07:27 PM
Alan Minyard
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:38:46 GMT, Jordan wrote:

Yea just keep making fun of every nation that doesn't agree with the
USA. You think you can take on the world? I can't wait for the day
when americans realise they are no longer the major world power.

Don't you think enough people hate americans already? Why do you keep
acting to reinforce their perceptions?


Well, you are going to need a tremendous amount of patience, the US
will be the preeminent world power for many years to come. You should
be thankful that the major world power is not Russia, China, or
France.

Al Minyard
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Old October 15th 03, 02:23 AM
Chad Irby
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"IO" wrote:

If you want to criticize Chirac ok... But please don't say that all the
french are monkeys or make stupid and false comments on French cowardy...


Well, I haven't been, but with so many French papers and media outlets
putting out "America is evil!" content, it has to go back somewhere.

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Old October 15th 03, 12:31 PM
Pierre-Henri Baras
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"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"IO" wrote:

If you want to criticize Chirac ok... But please don't say that all the
french are monkeys or make stupid and false comments on French

cowardy...

Well, I haven't been, but with so many French papers and media outlets
putting out "America is evil!" content, it has to go back somewhere.


Example please?? Apart from right and left wing extremist tablids, you'll
find NO front page as outragous as some US papers were during the
french-bashing period.
Didn't you understand that the "Amercia is evil" myth is just to justify
more French bashing????
If you want to do some research to back your claims, the major french papers
are LeMonde, LeFigaro, Liberation, LeParisien, France-Soir, LeCanrad
Enchainé. Major TV channels are TF1, Fr2, FR3, Canal+ and M6.
Please don't back your claims with stuff you saw on Fox or read in the
NYPost.
If ou want info or example on the French cultural scene, I'd be glad to
help.

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Old October 15th 03, 03:41 PM
Chad Irby
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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote:

Example please?? Apart from right and left wing extremist tablids, you'll
find NO front page as outragous as some US papers were during the
french-bashing period.


Do you even *read* your own papers?

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Old October 16th 03, 12:04 AM
Mike
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Totally true!


"Pierre-Henri Baras" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
"IO" wrote:

If you want to criticize Chirac ok... But please don't say that all

the
french are monkeys or make stupid and false comments on French

cowardy...

Well, I haven't been, but with so many French papers and media outlets
putting out "America is evil!" content, it has to go back somewhere.


Example please?? Apart from right and left wing extremist tablids, you'll
find NO front page as outragous as some US papers were during the
french-bashing period.
Didn't you understand that the "Amercia is evil" myth is just to justify
more French bashing????
If you want to do some research to back your claims, the major french

papers
are LeMonde, LeFigaro, Liberation, LeParisien, France-Soir, LeCanrad
Enchainé. Major TV channels are TF1, Fr2, FR3, Canal+ and M6.
Please don't back your claims with stuff you saw on Fox or read in the
NYPost.
If ou want info or example on the French cultural scene, I'd be glad to
help.

--
_________________________________________
Pierre-Henri BARAS

Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm
http://www.ffaa.net
Encyclopédie de l'Aviation sur le web
http://www.aviation-fr.info




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Old October 15th 03, 02:09 AM
BUFDRVR
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Your (american)
behaviour is very offensive to me and to europeans....


That's interesting, because most Americans found the Europeans (minus the
British of course) behavior before, during and even now after IRAQI FREEDOM
offensive.

And also Russia,
Germany, Mexico, Canada, Chile ecc was against usa on Iraq resolution
remeber this...


We remember, except France's behavior in regards to Iraq was simply the "straw
that broke the camals back". France has been attempting to subvert US influance
in Europe for years, Iraq was simply the latest (and most visable) effort.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old October 15th 03, 12:37 PM
lekomin inc
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Stop calling "europeans" anybody living in Europe and not being british. I'm
Polish as a matter of fact and I hate using "Europe" and "France and
Germany" as synonyms. Actually if you take the number of countries for and
against Iraqi Freedom both the current 15 EU and the post-2004 enlargement
EU was FOR the US. The French the Germans and the Belgians are a funny bunch
of people that can make good food (except for the Germans of course..) but
they still live the lives of forgone colonial powers.
take care
lekomin inc


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Old October 15th 03, 01:45 PM
tscottme
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lekomin inc wrote in message
...
Stop calling "europeans" anybody living in Europe and not being

british. I'm
Polish as a matter of fact and I hate using "Europe" and "France and
Germany" as synonyms. Actually if you take the number of countries for

and
against Iraqi Freedom both the current 15 EU and the post-2004

enlargement
EU was FOR the US. The French the Germans and the Belgians are a funny

bunch
of people that can make good food (except for the Germans of course..)

but
they still live the lives of forgone colonial powers.
take care
lekomin inc


Please excuse the inclusion of Poland in "Europe" as it's commonly used
in these heated discussions. I and others know that Poland and other
countries in Europe are level-headed. It seems that the countries that
have more recent experience with the harsh realities have an adult
appreciation for the dangers in the world. As one American my working
definition of "Europe" when it's being criticized in this discussion is
France and Germany and such. Most of us would write "the weasel nations
in Europe that have little to contribute but hot air, and spend half
their time on vacation or on strike" except it's too much to type.

Poland should be proud of their special forces and their assuming the
responsibility in these issues.

I'm grateful to Poland, UK, Norway, Australia, and the majority of NATO
countries that did contribute to the effort. I'm not the only American
that is grateful for those that will act like allies.

--

Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm


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Old October 15th 03, 02:11 PM
John S. Shinal
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"lekomin inc" wrote:

Stop calling "europeans" anybody living in Europe and not being british. I'm
Polish as a matter of fact and I hate using "Europe" and "France and
Germany" as synonyms. Actually if you take the number of countries for and
against Iraqi Freedom both the current 15 EU and the post-2004 enlargement
EU was FOR the US.


There has been mention a number of times in various US press
about the Poles, the Dutch, Slovakia, and others who have quietly and
quickly given support. A lot of the mainstream press coverage in the
US has a narrow focus, but pan-European help has been noted by some.



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