Sad day for Mxsmanic

Mike Ash writes:

All of this has to happen before the poor *******s up in the air run out
of fuel and die.

Incapacitation of the pilots does not drain fuel from the tanks.

Can even this much be done, much less the actual
talking-through-the-landing part? I'm doubtful myself. If anyone with
airline logistics experience would like to weigh in, I'd love to hear
about the practicality of simply finding the people and equipment from
someone who knows.

It seems to be pretty easy to find S&R, fire equipment, and military
interception on short notice; why would it be hard to find an instructor?

Robert M. Gary writes:

The funny thing with flight simulators is that they work so hard to
make them realistic in look, visuals etc. In truth that is about the
least important aspect of a real simulator.

For airliner simulators, it is extremely important, since hand-flying the
aircraft is often quite low in priority, whereas accurate execution of
procedures is near the top.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

While it is highly likely that an airliner's radios will already be
tuned to ATC, the odds are about zero that there will by anyone around
at the ATC end with any knowledge of the cockpit layout of a random
airliner.

People with such knowledge can be found extraordinarily fast.

Yeah, sure they can.


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Mxsmanic wrote:
ManhattanMan writes:

Has nobody thought of who is going to tune the funking radio to someone to
give the newbie driver instructions?

Typically the radio is already tuned to an appropriate ATC frequency.

However said frequency is hardly appropriate for spontaneous flight
instruction and the people in the ATC facility are generally nowhere
near where any pilots are.

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On Feb 27, 10:42*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:
The funny thing with flight simulators is that they work so hard to
make them realistic in look, visuals etc. In truth that is about the
least important aspect of a real simulator.

For airliner simulators, it is extremely important, since hand-flying the
aircraft is often quite low in priority, whereas accurate execution of
procedures is near the top.

I don't find that whether the trees look like lumps of green or have
leaves on them makes one bit of difference to a real simulator.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Mike Ash writes:

All of this has to happen before the poor *******s up in the air run out
of fuel and die.

Incapacitation of the pilots does not drain fuel from the tanks.

Can even this much be done, much less the actual
talking-through-the-landing part? I'm doubtful myself. If anyone with
airline logistics experience would like to weigh in, I'd love to hear
about the practicality of simply finding the people and equipment from
someone who knows.

It seems to be pretty easy to find S&R, fire equipment, and military
interception on short notice; why would it be hard to find an instructor?

In what fantasy world does this happen?


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Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

There's also the psychological issue that most people think without
constant "tending" of the airplane by both the pilots and air traffic
control, an airplane will fall out of the sky.

Not everyone believes that.

Wrong yet again; most people do in fact believe that.

Your average person would likely be paralyzed by fear if told they had
to land the airplane.

I seriously doubt that. Most people aren't quite that irrational, especially
under pressure.

Having seen the reactions people who have actually been trained to
respond in pressure situations, I can assure you that it is true.

Then there is the practical issue of finding someone who can tell a
totally ignorant person how to find the necessary buttons to push
and what to enter entirely from memory for a given random aircraft
type. There is a reason for type training by airlines.

You can put the instructor in a sim, and it's not hard to locate the buttons.

How many realistic sims down to the switch position level for any given
random aircraft do you thing exist in the world given they cost millions
of dollars?


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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Clark writes:

As usual you miss the point entirely. You claimed that nothing was
required
but flipping a few switches and such. Go out and stop an aircraft and
then
come back and tell us all how easy it was.

Done. Just apply the brakes.

Good job dumb ass, you have just proven yourself incorrect.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

I have first hand knowledge of what needs to be done.

So do I.

I contend it cannot be done, and as evidence, I offer that
it has never been done.

Lightning cannot strike my house, because it never has.

Bull****, you have never proven anything but your ability to wonder around
for years in a clueless daze.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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writes:

While it is highly likely that an airliner's radios will already be
tuned to ATC, the odds are about zero that there will by anyone around
at the ATC end with any knowledge of the cockpit layout of a random
airliner.

People with such knowledge can be found extraordinarily fast.

Only in your delusion.