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Where is the IAF for LOC BC RWY 03R at LUK?
I can't seem to find the IAF for the LOC BC RWY 03R at LUK. Any ideas why? |
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message . 158... I can't seem to find the IAF for the LOC BC RWY 03R at LUK. Any ideas why? Because none is designated. |
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Andrew Sarangan wrote in message .158...
I can't seem to find the IAF for the LOC BC RWY 03R at LUK. Any ideas why? I'm new at IFR so this may be off base, but... the chart says radar is required, so I'm guessing you can only use this with radar vectors. There isn't even a proc turn shown. Maybe they don't want people wandering around CVG. |
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"PaulH" wrote in message om... I'm new at IFR so this may be off base, but... the chart says radar is required, so I'm guessing you can only use this with radar vectors. There isn't even a proc turn shown. The chart doesn't say "RADAR REQUIRED", it says "DME or RADAR and ADF REQUIRED". You can fly it without radar assistance as long as you have DME and ADF (or suitable GPS) and navigate via Falmouth VOR/DME. |
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"PaulH" wrote in message
om... Andrew Sarangan wrote in message .158... I can't seem to find the IAF for the LOC BC RWY 03R at LUK. Any ideas why? I'm new at IFR so this may be off base, but... the chart says radar is required, so I'm guessing you can only use this with radar vectors. There isn't even a proc turn shown. Hm, which version of the chart are you looking at? The current NACO chart (http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0406/00083LBC3R.PDF) says radar isn't needed if you have DME. --Gary |
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Another approach with no IAF is the NDB or GPS-A approach to Portland
Troutdale (TTD). This approach requires radar. It also has an interesting lost communications procedure. |
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Andrew Sarangan wrote: I can't seem to find the IAF for the LOC BC RWY 03R at LUK. Any ideas why? Charting error. Falmouth is the IAF. They most likely failed to designate it on the source document. Stuff like that happens. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"PaulH" wrote in message om... I'm new at IFR so this may be off base, but... the chart says radar is required, so I'm guessing you can only use this with radar vectors. There isn't even a proc turn shown. The chart doesn't say "RADAR REQUIRED", it says "DME or RADAR and ADF REQUIRED". You can fly it without radar assistance as long as you have DME and ADF (or suitable GPS) and navigate via Falmouth VOR/DME. I never was very good in grammar, but what is the parsing order in the above. Is it "DME or (RADAR and ADF)" or "(DME or RADAR) and ADF?" I'm assuming English has an order of evaluation as does mathematics, I'm just not familiar with what it is. I would have read this as requiring either DME or requiring RADAR and ADF, but that isn't how you interpreted it and I frankly don't know which is correct from a language perspective. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote: Steven P. McNicoll wrote: "PaulH" wrote in message om... I'm new at IFR so this may be off base, but... the chart says radar is required, so I'm guessing you can only use this with radar vectors. There isn't even a proc turn shown. The chart doesn't say "RADAR REQUIRED", it says "DME or RADAR and ADF REQUIRED". You can fly it without radar assistance as long as you have DME and ADF (or suitable GPS) and navigate via Falmouth VOR/DME. I never was very good in grammar, but what is the parsing order in the above. Is it "DME or (RADAR and ADF)" or "(DME or RADAR) and ADF?" I'm assuming English has an order of evaluation as does mathematics, I'm just not familiar with what it is. I would have read this as requiring either DME or requiring RADAR and ADF, but that isn't how you interpreted it and I frankly don't know which is correct from a language perspective. Matt DME or Radar...one of the other ADF no matter which of the "ors" above you have. Look at the context. There are radar fixes where there are DME fixes. |
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