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Old airframe, new engine
Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see
the comments. Seeing as how we have a few new faces around here now lets have another go at it. You are able to select any tactical jet airframe from the past. We'll assume all engines would fit properly. What bird would you like to fly again if it had modern engines and avionics as well? My first tour of duty was at NKX when Fightertown meant F-4's and F-8's. Always wondered what a new series engine would have done for the Crusader. *********************************************** ACC USN ret. NKX, BIKF, NAB, CV-63, NIR 67-69 69-71 71-74 77-80 80-85 & 74-77 Co-founder of newsgroup - RAMN Anti-spam measures in action. For e-mail response delete "nospam" *********************************************** |
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Jim Strand wrote: Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see the comments. Seeing as how we have a few new faces around here now lets have another go at it. You are able to select any tactical jet airframe from the past. We'll assume all engines would fit properly. What bird would you like to fly again if it had modern engines and avionics as well? My first tour of duty was at NKX when Fightertown meant F-4's and F-8's. Always wondered what a new series engine would have done for the Crusader. *********************************************** ACC USN ret. NKX, BIKF, NAB, CV-63, NIR 67-69 69-71 71-74 77-80 80-85 & 74-77 Co-founder of newsgroup - RAMN Anti-spam measures in action. For e-mail response delete "nospam" *********************************************** Here's mine: 1) A-6 2) F-4E 3) A-4 4) A-7 Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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"Jim Strand" wrote in message ... Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see the comments. Seeing as how we have a few new faces around here now lets have another go at it. You are able to select any tactical jet airframe from the past. We'll assume all engines would fit properly. What bird would you like to fly again if it had modern engines and avionics as well? My first tour of duty was at NKX when Fightertown meant F-4's and F-8's. Always wondered what a new series engine would have done for the Crusader. From my generation it would be the following, Attack: I think it would have to be an A-4. An afterburner TF30-3 of about 18,000 lbs thrust would have made it an even better "Hot Rod". I didn't have a lot of hours in it, but it was pure fun. Fighter: The F-8/RF-8 would be my first choice. It needed an engine of about 5,000 lbs more thrust. I would have liked to fly the F104 though, just to see what it would do. I think I would like a ride in an MIG-21 though. It was the "boogie-man" for so many years it would be nice to see what it would really do. For hauling ass: The RA-5C with the dash 10 engines of course. Maybe another couple 1000 lbs thrust and the ability to pull 4 or 5 G's. A strong second would have to be the F-105. Although the B-58 that made the low level supersonic flight from Texas to Calif and back was probably the all-time champ. From later generation aircraft: I guess the only one that excites me is the F-16. Maybe low level ride in a B1B. I don't get turned on by the F-14, F-15, F/A-18, or any of the others. Yeah, I know the B-58 and the B1B were not tactical aircraft, but this is make believe anyway. For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love. Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft. |
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On 10/14/03 9:49 AM, in article 3f8c0d21$1@bg2., "Matt Wiser"
wrote: Jim Strand wrote: Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see the comments. Seeing as how we have a few new faces around here now lets have another go at it. You are able to select any tactical jet airframe from the past. We'll assume all engines would fit properly. What bird would you like to fly again if it had modern engines and avionics as well? My first tour of duty was at NKX when Fightertown meant F-4's and F-8's. Always wondered what a new series engine would have done for the Crusader. *********************************************** ACC USN ret. NKX, BIKF, NAB, CV-63, NIR 67-69 69-71 71-74 77-80 80-85 & 74-77 Co-founder of newsgroup - RAMN Anti-spam measures in action. For e-mail response delete "nospam" *********************************************** Here's mine: 1) A-6 SNIP Ditto. A-6E (naturally) upgraded to the A-6F would have been good enough for me. Unfortunately, the tail couldn't handle the normal shock from the 404. I'd also love to see engines in the F/A-18 that would give it the T/W of the Viper. Pipe dream. --Woody |
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On 10/14/03 11:05 AM, in article
, "R" wrote: "Jim Strand" wrote in message ... Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see SNIP For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love. Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California Something tells me that "under" the power lines was once an "over" but became an "under" over time. trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft. --Woody |
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For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love.
Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft. Well, the F-8U3 had a J-75 tuned to 29,000 lbs of thrust ... that might have granted your wish. Of course, it would have retained the Gator's endearing flying qualities at the blunt end of the boat. No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power. R / John |
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No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power.
Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions... _____________ José Herculano |
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"Doug "Woody" and Erin Beal" wrote in message ... On 10/14/03 11:05 AM, in article , "R" wrote: "Jim Strand" wrote in message ... Every year or so I post a similar version of this. Always nice to see SNIP For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love. Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California Something tells me that "under" the power lines was once an "over" but became an "under" over time. Well it only happened once! I could have sworn that the power lines were a couple miles on the other side of the Aqueduct.:-) Heck, I was lucky, one F-8 driver put out the lights in SoCal, (actually it was daylight, but never let the facts interfere with a good sea story.) Both he and the aircraft survived, to face the wrath. It just proved that the titanium intake was a good cable cutter. trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft. --Woody Besides if it didn't happen that way it should have. Red |
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"John Carrier" wrote in message ... For me the winner would be the F-8. You never forget your first love. Whether it was climbing out of Key West after a Cuban MIG, doing a vertical pass on a Bear, or flying under the power lines in southern California trying to sneak up on Yuma it was great aircraft. Well, the F-8U3 had a J-75 tuned to 29,000 lbs of thrust ... that might have granted your wish. Of course, it would have retained the Gator's endearing flying qualities at the blunt end of the boat. No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power. R / John Its been over 30 years, we don't remember how it was, only how it should have been. The gator was perfect around the boat Red |
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HABU, HABU, HABU....
José Herculano wrote: No jet ever made (or that ever will be made) had enough power. Possible exception of the F/A-22 Raptor under current conditions... _____________ José Herculano |
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