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Driver Licence Photo ID Catch-22
A recent request from my local FBO for my ID prompted me to
upgrade to the soon to be mandatory NJ digital photo license from my current paper license which expires in '06. ( I carry a separate State issued photo ID to satisfy the FAA requirement for photo ID). According to the NJ Motor Vehicle Commission website, a primary and seconday documentation tier exists assigning values to types of ID which must add up to 6 points. A primary document such as a birth certificate equals 4 points. A seconday document is an FAA pilot license which equals 2 points. I presented these two documents to the receptionist when I entered the Licensing Dept. and asked to upgrade to a digital photo license. I was asked for additional documentation including my drivers license and proof of insurance; provided a card to fill out with name, address, drivers license and ss number, and instructed to go to the photo license room. Another receptionist required me to submit all documentation previously submitted for a second verification and I was usherd to the end of the waiting line. After waiting for 25 minutes, I was required to re-submit all documentation a thirfd time to the computer/camera operator. After entering my information into the computer, I was asked to wait for an additional 5 minutes while my ss number was verified. When I was called to return, I was told the original Birth Certificate I submitted was not acceptable, and only a copy of it would be accepted. The catch is that the copy must be issued by the municipality where the birth occured and bear the municipal seal. The original Birth Certificate is issued by the hospital where the birth occured, which is not a government agency and will not be accepted by the Motor Vehicle Commission. Therefore a new certificate must be obtained from the municipality of birth, bear an appropriate embossed government seal, and require a $21.95 issuing, shipping and handling fee. I realize that many have already obtained a digital photo license, but having the correct birth certificate may help those who are transitioning from paper/paper photo, to digital-photo avoid delay by obtaining the municiplal issued certificate. |
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wrote in message oups.com... A recent request from my local FBO for my ID prompted me to upgrade to the soon to be mandatory NJ digital photo license from my SNIP I was called to return, I was told the original Birth Certificate I submitted was not acceptable, and only a copy of it would be accepted. The catch is that the copy must be issued by the municipality where the birth occured and bear the municipal seal. The original Birth Certificate is issued by the hospital where the birth occured, which is not a government agency and will not be accepted by the Motor Vehicle Commission. Therefore a new certificate must be obtained from the municipality of birth, bear an appropriate embossed government seal, and require a $21.95 issuing, shipping and handling fee. I realize that many have already obtained a digital photo license, but having the correct birth certificate may help those who are transitioning from paper/paper photo, to digital-photo avoid delay by obtaining the municiplal issued certificate. The document from the hospital is considered by all the agencies I've worked with since 1970 as a "certificate of live birth," and not a "birth certificate." The latter document is issued only by a municipality, or a Bureau of Vital Statistics in and for the county in which you were born. The fees vary widely across the United States. Some states will not bear an embossed seal, but rather a signed certification, similiar to a Notary(ization). As you've seen by now, the data on the two documents are very different. It is unfortunate that the very first clerk wasn't properly trained and didn't catch the problem early on. When I got the 'official' birth certificates for each of my children in California, they cost $2. Don't ask how long ago that was. When I needed a new copy of my own from Texas in the 90's I paid $35--but it also required some searching. |
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On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 20:09:44 GMT, George Patterson
wrote: wrote: Fortunately, I had a current passport, but I did have to deal with a clerk who refused to believe that a pilot's certificate doesn't have a photo. Fortunately, his superior was a bit better educated. You mean to tell me that she didnt think that you looked like Orville or Wilbur Wright at all? (that is if you had the newer version). Scott D To email remove spamcatcher |
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