Broken wing

Way back, I believe the first jet passenger jet was the Lockheed
Electra. The plane mysteriously fell out of the air and very thorough
search for a cause was instituted. In the end, again if I remember
correctly, the conclusion was that the wing spar failed from fatigue
because the wing was nutating, a slight circular motion due to
gyroscopic effects.

Maybe that's the same thing caused the FL seaplane crash.

Stubby wrote:
Way back, I believe the first jet passenger jet was the Lockheed
Electra. The plane mysteriously fell out of the air and very thorough
search for a cause was instituted. In the end, again if I remember
correctly, the conclusion was that the wing spar failed from fatigue
because the wing was nutating, a slight circular motion due to
gyroscopic effects.

To jog your memory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-188_Electra

Maybe that's the same thing caused the FL seaplane crash.

The Electra problem happened pretty soon after they came out. Those
seaplanes have been around a long time.

Cheers, Kev

Kev wrote:
Stubby wrote:

Way back, I believe the first jet passenger jet was the Lockheed
Electra. The plane mysteriously fell out of the air and very thorough
search for a cause was instituted. In the end, again if I remember
correctly, the conclusion was that the wing spar failed from fatigue
because the wing was nutating, a slight circular motion due to
gyroscopic effects.


To jog your memory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-188_Electra

Excellent article! Thanks. That Electra (maybe there are others) was
a turboprop rather than a turbojet as I had assumed.

Kev

I'll use your post to add my comments on Electra.

Lockheed fixed the wing problem but bird had the bad name and airlines
didn't want to fly it.

USN bought a bunch (of the fixed birds) and put MAD gear and other
anti sub equipment in and have been flying them for years without any
wing problems.

Due to age and hours, Navy is starting to look at newer birds for
their mission. One being looked at is the 737.

2 more shopping days til Xmas 05 )

Big JOhn
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On 22 Dec 2005 07:36:00 -0800, "Kev" wrote:

Stubby wrote:
Way back, I believe the first jet passenger jet was the Lockheed
Electra. The plane mysteriously fell out of the air and very thorough
search for a cause was instituted. In the end, again if I remember
correctly, the conclusion was that the wing spar failed from fatigue
because the wing was nutating, a slight circular motion due to
gyroscopic effects.

To jog your memory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-188_Electra

Maybe that's the same thing caused the FL seaplane crash.

The Electra problem happened pretty soon after they came out. Those
seaplanes have been around a long time.

Cheers, Kev

"Stubby" wrote in message
Way back, I believe the first jet passenger jet was the Lockheed
Electra. The plane mysteriously fell out of the air and very thorough
search for a cause was instituted. In the end, again if I remember
correctly, the conclusion was that the wing spar failed from fatigue
because the wing was nutating, a slight circular motion due to
gyroscopic effects.
Maybe that's the same thing caused the FL seaplane crash.

The Electra wasn't a jet, it was a turbopropeller. Furthermore, the
Electra's design flaw was discovered early in it's life cycle. Grumman
Mallards are a mature design of 70 years starting with the Goose.

D.

Stubby wrote:

Way back, I believe the first jet passenger jet was the Lockheed
Electra. The plane mysteriously fell out of the air and very thorough
search for a cause was instituted. In the end, again if I remember
correctly, the conclusion was that the wing spar failed from fatigue
because the wing was nutating, a slight circular motion due to
gyroscopic effects.

Maybe that's the same thing caused the FL seaplane crash.

Except the Electra wasn't a jet. Maybe you are thinking of the Comet.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote

Except the Electra wasn't a jet. Maybe you are thinking of the
Comet.

Well...the Electras that I flew certainly had "jet" engines.
Even burned kerosene. :-)

Bob Moore

I said the Electra is not a jet you pompous asshole...

Matt Whiting wrote:
I said the Electra is not a jet you pompous asshole...


Nice attempt at forging an email from me, but you aren't very good at it.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
I said the Electra is not a jet you pompous asshole...

Bob has remarkable consistency in posting incisive, telling stuff,
gleaned without doubt over years of flying. Notwithstanding that, don't
you think your invective isn't quite apropos for one past 70?

When he wrote jet under two quotation marks, it was obvious he wasn't
referring to the obvious.

Just my 0.02,

Ramapriya