Did it -- bought the Cheetah

"Duane MacInnis" writes:

To offset that is the comfort in the summer. An aircraft cockpit is
like a solar oven, and in this regard the Grumman is a real sweetie.
Open the canopy, and we are coooool. Pipers, which I use for
training, are just awful. I can't understand why people who design
and build airplanes in a hot place like Wichita, would build one
without cross ventilation -- like TWO DOORS.

Fair enough, but my Warrior is comfortable on a hot day as soon as I
start the big fan on the front then stick my little plastic scoop out
the pilot-side window to channel the wind inside. A sliding canopy
would be great, of course, but there are easy ways to cope -- if you
don't have the air scoops on the training Pipers, you might suggest
that the owners install them.


All the best,


David

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David Megginson, , http://www.megginson.com/

Hi David !

Yes, yes, the Piper is OK with the fan going. Never seen the scoop for the
left side you speak of, is that a portable device?

Incidentally, with your recommendation I called Bruce Musgrave of Apex at
Buttonville, 905-477-7900. He was very helpful to me as you suggested he
might, with lots of hints and ideas. I would turn to him again in a second
if I was selling or buying again soon. He actually sold one of the
airplanes I was looking at in Burlington, at my recommendation.

Cheers

Duane



"David Megginson" wrote in message
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"Duane MacInnis" writes:

To offset that is the comfort in the summer. An aircraft cockpit is
like a solar oven, and in this regard the Grumman is a real sweetie.
Open the canopy, and we are coooool. Pipers, which I use for
training, are just awful. I can't understand why people who design
and build airplanes in a hot place like Wichita, would build one
without cross ventilation -- like TWO DOORS.

Fair enough, but my Warrior is comfortable on a hot day as soon as I
start the big fan on the front then stick my little plastic scoop out
the pilot-side window to channel the wind inside. A sliding canopy
would be great, of course, but there are easy ways to cope -- if you
don't have the air scoops on the training Pipers, you might suggest
that the owners install them.


All the best,


David

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David Megginson, , http://www.megginson.com/

"Duane MacInnis" writes:

Yes, yes, the Piper is OK with the fan going. Never seen the scoop
for the left side you speak of, is that a portable device?

It's a small, hinged plastic scoop glued to the pilot-side window.
When the storm window is open, you spin the scoop around so that it
pokes outside and channels the prop blast into the cabin. From what
I've heard, lots of Cherokee owners use them -- it works great for me,
even at 35 degC +, but all the wind sometimes causes mic noise (a mic
muff helped a lot).

One of the brand names for this is "kool scoop" (I have a different
brand). Here's more info:

http://www.chiefaircraft.com/cgi-bin...indowVent.html

Incidentally, with your recommendation I called Bruce Musgrave of
Apex at Buttonville, 905-477-7900. He was very helpful to me as you
suggested he might, with lots of hints and ideas. I would turn to
him again in a second if I was selling or buying again soon. He
actually sold one of the airplanes I was looking at in Burlington,
at my recommendation.

I'll be going back to Bruce in a few years if my family gets heavy
enough that I have to sell my Warrior and buy a Six.


All the best,


David

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David Megginson, , http://www.megginson.com/

(Snowbird) writes:

Actually, David, the Pipers I've flown turned from "unbearable" to
merely "stifling" with the little plastic scoop.

Could it be we inhabit a hotter clime than you "Canajiens"?

Probably. A summer afternoon here is unlikely to get much hotter than
40 degC, and 30 degC is more typical. I haven't flown above about 37
degC myself.


All the best,


David

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David Megginson, , http://www.megginson.com/