Powell on the National Guard

Unfortunately, for
some reason, it never caught on with consumers.

Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that ethanol is caustic
to rubber? You can't put gasahol into an airplane engine, even if it's
STC'ed for automotive gasoline.

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On 21 Feb 2004 18:21:37 GMT, "Emmanuel.Gustin"
wrote:

Isn't that army policy? I seem to remember reading that
the US Army is deliberately organized in such way that
any major conflict requires calling in the National Guard.
In part because this allows the professional regular troops
to concentrate on the more hich-tech tasks, and in part to
create a political hurdle the politicians have to jump
over first. Sending National Guard units into combat
requires a clear commitment, so this prevents the army
from being slowly dragged into a full-scale war -- no more
Vietnams.

Yes, that is exactly the case.

It's also an economy measure. Not every military engagement requires a
civil affairs or a bridge-building unit, for example. So why not
train reservists or Guards in those offbeat specialties?

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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:53:23 GMT, Mike Dargan
wrote:

Perhaps. But in this case, "oil" costs money and lives.

Horseplop. How many barrels of oil could we have purchased for $87
billion?

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"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
Post-war Germany...

At least 39 U.S. servicemen were killed by the Nazi "Werwolf"
resistance movement in the fisrt few months of the occupation.
Additionally, Werwolves weren't the only problem. Violent crime,
thievery and black-marketing were rampant. Germans incessantly
complained to U.S. military officials about inadequate public safety.
And these threats paled in comparison to the physical privations. Many
feared masses of Germans would freeze or starve to death in the first
winter after the war. To suggest that the first year of occupation was
anything less than a dreadful, harrowing experience for many Germans
is just bad history.

Remember, Art flew over Germany and didn't stay. Once the war was over, they
got to go home. There was no CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, etc. to update us daily
on what was happening. Talk to the people coming back from Iraq and they all
say things are going well. Do we have problems? Of course but it's not as
bad as the news makes it seem.

Subject: Powell on the National Guard
From: "Brian"
Date: 2/21/04 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time

Remember, Art flew over Germany and didn't stay. Once the war was over, they
got to go home. There was no CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, etc. to

I did an 16 month stay in the Army of occupation once the war was over. I was
in the streets and spoke to the people on a daily basis. I'll take my first
hand experience over what you saw or read in the news.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
...

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:gXJZb.9592$Ru5.1337@okepread03...
"George Z. Bush" wrote

Our ethanol experience suggests much wishful thinking on your part,
unfortunately for us all.

Ethanol is a welfare program. It has nothing to do with future energy.

You don't know what you're talking about. When you pour a gallon of it
into
your gas tank, that's one less gallon of gasoline that you're going to
need,
because it's supposed to burn just about as good as gasoline does. That
has to
do with reducing gasoline consumption, the way I see it. Unfortunately,
for
some reason, it never caught on with consumers.

Not really one less gallon because you have to factor in how much total
energy it took to make a gallon of ethanol. I'm guessing it takes a lot more
energy to produce than it's worth.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Powell on the National Guard
From: "Brian"
Date: 2/21/04 4:32 PM Pacific Standard Time

Remember, Art flew over Germany and didn't stay. Once the war was over,
they
got to go home. There was no CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, etc. to

I did an 16 month stay in the Army of occupation once the war was over. I
was
in the streets and spoke to the people on a daily basis. I'll take my
first
hand experience over what you saw or read in the news.

I stand corrected. Talked to anyone returning from Iraq?

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: Powell on the National Guard
From: Ed Rasimus
Date: 2/21/04 8:52 AM Pacific Standard Time

snip

As for you question of how I got to Vietnam, you already know that I
went by the active duty USAF route. W

Of course you did. So did I. So did we all who wanted to get into it fast.

You had no choice in the matter--remember, you just recently told us that
all the folks were going where they were told, when they were told?

snip


Fifth, I didn't volunteer for combat. It came and got me.

I wasn't so smart.

We have already figured that out.

I volunteered and went after it. And got it fast.

You had no choice, remember?

Brooks

snip

Arthur Kramer

"Emmanuel.Gustin" wrote in message
...
Kevin Brooks wrote:

: "Then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Colin Powell stated
: shortly after the war that it "...could have not been fought without the
: Guard".

Isn't that army policy? I seem to remember reading that
the US Army is deliberately organized in such way that
any major conflict requires calling in the National Guard.
In part because this allows the professional regular troops
to concentrate on the more hich-tech tasks, and in part to
create a political hurdle the politicians have to jump
over first. Sending National Guard units into combat
requires a clear commitment, so this prevents the army
from being slowly dragged into a full-scale war -- no more
Vietnams.

Correct. It actually became DoD policy (Total Force), but the Army was the
biggest supporter (Total Army); credit Creighton Abrams for that during his
(short) tenure as C/S after he left MAC-V. Cancer took a good one away
before his time.

Brooks


Emmanuel Gustin