Sport Pilot license

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I just saw the FAA presentation at '04 OshKosh on DVD, and they stated
very clearly, several times, that you CANNOT get a SPL if you've failed
a medical, until you get a successful medical. If that is so, WTF is
the SPL for, anyway????

Drew


The key is FAILED a medical. Think about it.

I, for example, had a mild heart attack 11 years ago and lost my medical. I
then got a special issuance that has now expired. I can fly LSA with my Ark
DL.

I like the hangar!,
I like the Zenith planes myself, 601's and 701's..but Lord that Rotax is
just EXPENSIVE!!! I am not having any luck finding decent wood for the
Volksplane And if I were out your way or you out mine I'd be happy to
help. Though I couldn't fly it I have thought about building an RV because
they have so many rivets in them! I sure wish I had a nickel for every rivet
I have shot! HAHAHA
The 601 has the pop type rivets doesn't it( if I remember correctly.)

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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The 601 has been on hold waithing for me to complete the hanger which in
now finished and just about moved into. Visit www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
for photos. Feel free to drop by I'm SURE I could find something for an
ex-Marine mech to do.

Good question to ask on the Light Sport Aircraft group.
--
Have a good day and stay out of the trees!
See ya on Sport Aircraft group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/







"keepitrunning" wrote ...
Has anyone come up with an estimated cost of a sport pilot license versus
a regular pilot's license. Then would it be reasonable to add the
requirements for a pilot's license later?

Any thoughts and comments are appreciated.

Gary

Hello Patrick:

You probably already know it is possible to fly a twin engine aircraft
without a medical - or a jet? Or fly at 30,000 feet?

Yes, it is possible if you have a self-launch glider rating. I have such a
rating - and an aircraft that allows pilots to fly without a medical. It is
called a motorglider. I do have a medical and a SEL - but if you get a
glider rating with a self launch endorsement, you can fly a number of
different motorgliders. You can use them as regular airplanes. Some are
tail-draggers, some are tricycle gear and some are single wheel with
outriggers when the wing drops. Some go as fast as about 130. One of the
companies is coming out with a single engine jet version. There is a pilot
who has modified a glider with twin jet engines. It is aerobatic. Not bad
for not needing a medical.

I suppose the thinking is that if a motorglider pilot flying a 1700 pound
motorglider has a heart attack and dies, he will not kill as many people as
a pilot flying a Cessna 150 who has a heart attack, or a pilot who is flying
a sport certified plane, who has a bad heart but does not need to take a
physical. Makes a lot of sense.

I think the weight limit is about 1800 pounds and it needs long wings and be
certified as a glider. They fly great and are very efficient. About the
only down side is on the ground as many have wings longer than 50 feet. Some
have folding wings, for hanger storage.

As for instruments, I have CAS, Comm and Mode C transponder in the
motorglider.

And, with a motorglider, and not being instrument rated, you can get in a
mountain wave, shut the motor down. grab some oxygen get a prior wave
clearance and soar to 30,000 feet or more. In essence, the sky is the
limit. All without a medical.

Good luck, Colin

Colin,
Yes I was aware of the no med glider rating. Have thought about maybe
checking into that alittle more once I get this SPL done,...can always use
another endorsement huh? Sadly being medically retired does not allow
alot of funds to buy a motorglider , from the prices I have seen. And I
really have not come across any plans for building one , maybe you have a
suggestion?

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech
"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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Hello Patrick:

You probably already know it is possible to fly a twin engine aircraft
without a medical - or a jet? Or fly at 30,000 feet?

Yes, it is possible if you have a self-launch glider rating. I have such
a rating - and an aircraft that allows pilots to fly without a medical.
It is called a motorglider. I do have a medical and a SEL - but if you
get a glider rating with a self launch endorsement, you can fly a number
of different motorgliders. You can use them as regular airplanes. Some
are tail-draggers, some are tricycle gear and some are single wheel with
outriggers when the wing drops. Some go as fast as about 130. One of the
companies is coming out with a single engine jet version. There is a
pilot who has modified a glider with twin jet engines. It is aerobatic.
Not bad for not needing a medical.

I suppose the thinking is that if a motorglider pilot flying a 1700 pound
motorglider has a heart attack and dies, he will not kill as many people
as a pilot flying a Cessna 150 who has a heart attack, or a pilot who is
flying a sport certified plane, who has a bad heart but does not need to
take a physical. Makes a lot of sense.

I think the weight limit is about 1800 pounds and it needs long wings and
be certified as a glider. They fly great and are very efficient. About
the only down side is on the ground as many have wings longer than 50
feet. Some have folding wings, for hanger storage.

As for instruments, I have CAS, Comm and Mode C transponder in the
motorglider.

And, with a motorglider, and not being instrument rated, you can get in a
mountain wave, shut the motor down. grab some oxygen get a prior wave
clearance and soar to 30,000 feet or more. In essence, the sky is the
limit. All without a medical.

Good luck, Colin

There is a motorglider kit that uses a VW engine. I do not know much about
it. It is only about a 20:1 glide ratio, I recall.

You can also buy a motorglider that needs restoration - which is sort of
like building your own.

Colin

W P Dixon wrote:

Colin,
Yes I was aware of the no med glider rating. Have thought about maybe
checking into that alittle more once I get this SPL done,...can always use
another endorsement huh? Sadly being medically retired does not allow
alot of funds to buy a motorglider , from the prices I have seen. And I
really have not come across any plans for building one , maybe you have a
suggestion?

Below copied and pasted from their web site, The plane won't meet SP
criterial because of it's speed but the motor glider version will. The two
are the same except the outer wing panels which you can build both and use
either as a motor glider or higher performance single seater if you have a
PPL.
John



http://www.fly-kr.com/
The KR-1 is the single seat low wing retractable monoplane which is
typically powered by smaller VW engines, up to the VW 2100. The KR-1B
motorglider is a standard KR-1 with modified outer wing sections. With this
simple wing conversion, the original KR-1 becomes an excellent self-powered
glider.

With regard to the aircraft that changes wings to move from an airplane to a
motorglider, beware that the original classification is what the aircraft
stays at in the eyes of the FAA.

Thus, if you add longer wings to a airplane, it cannot become a glider. It
has to have been originally licensed as a glider.

Not sure about the other way around, though. If you have a licensed glider
and you put short wings on it, maybe it cannot be a glider, but it would not
be an airplane.

Colin

I never really wanted to go for the Rotax. I did consider the Jab 3300 but
now I have pretty much decided on a Wynne built Corvair. What did it for me
was a the price, less than $7000, and the fact that Falcon will insure the
the plane on first flight.



"W P Dixon" wrote in message
...
I like the hangar!,
I like the Zenith planes myself, 601's and 701's..but Lord that Rotax
is just EXPENSIVE!!! I am not having any luck finding decent wood for the
Volksplane And if I were out your way or you out mine I'd be happy to
help. Though I couldn't fly it I have thought about building an RV because
they have so many rivets in them! I sure wish I had a nickel for every
rivet I have shot! HAHAHA
The 601 has the pop type rivets doesn't it( if I remember correctly.)

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:FQkue.32678$DC2.16403@okepread01...


The 601 has been on hold waithing for me to complete the hanger which in
now finished and just about moved into. Visit www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
for photos. Feel free to drop by I'm SURE I could find something for an
ex-Marine mech to do.

"W P Dixon" wrote in message
...

The 601 has the pop type rivets doesn't it( if I remember correctly.)


Yes it does, Gog love 'em