Good Place To Get Jeppesen Enroute Charts?

NW_Pilot wrote:

Yea, I have flitestar! It becomes useless when your Laptop/EFB gets smashed!
I still like the paper Jeppesen charts because electronics fail and
Ink/Toner costs a lot or money!


And plates are useless if you don't file them every cycle and you
make no mistakes when you file them (like neglecting to pull the
D pages) etc...

Ink isn't all that expensive.

Ron Natalie wrote:
Sam Spade wrote:

Not a good idea! The electronic en route charts sometimes misplace
MEAs or miss them altogether. DME fixes can be missing. And so forth.
Jeppesen does not hold out the electronic en route charts to be
reliable at this time. That is why they issue paper en route charts
with JeppView subscriptions.


That's news to me on the JeppView3. The documentation clearly says
that JeppView replaces the paper enroutes. The only warning they
make you "Understand and Accept" is that you can deslect "certain
navigation features or elements" which might be critical to flight.

JeppView 3 is a world beyond the former version.

I have the latest version. When I pointed out some issues with the
electronic charts Jeppesen agreed and was quick to point out that's why
they still issue the paper charts.

Peter R. wrote:

Sam Spade wrote:


Not a good idea! The electronic en route charts sometimes misplace MEAs
or miss them altogether. DME fixes can be missing. And so forth.
Jeppesen does not hold out the electronic en route charts to be reliable
at this time. That is why they issue paper en route charts with
JeppView subscriptions.


I was aware that, depending on the view, en route fixes occasionally did
not print, but I was not aware that there is a risk of en route fixes being
misplaced on the chart, nor was I aware that Jeppesen actually discouraged
printing out these charts.

If this is so, why does the software have the "strip chart" concept, which
prints your route along strips of en route charts?


Ask Jeppesen. I am just the messenger.

NW_Pilot wrote:

If you fly general aviation IFR enough you will find out that things don't
always work as planed and you have to deviate or reroute due to some
unforeseen circumstance like (Weather, Aircraft Performance, Technical Issue
Like Navaid Outage) you better have printed a lot of strip charts or have
the paper chart available for a reroute.

While I may not be a ferry pilot, I do use my aircraft to commute weekly in
the Northeast US, plus fly few charity flights a month and occasionally
family flights, too. Been doing this just about every week since February
2005. Therefore I can say with confidence that I fly IFR often enough,
assuming you count two to three times a week often.

In the case of my response to you, I thought you were looking for a one
time chart print, hence my suggestion about Jepp's FlightStar. I was not
suggesting that FlightStar go along in the cockpit with you on every flight
as a substitute for charts. I whole-heartedly agree that paper charts are
still needed, specifically for the possibility of an unplanned diversion.


--
Peter

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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NW_Pilot wrote:

Yea, I have flitestar! It becomes useless when your Laptop/EFB gets
smashed! I still like the paper Jeppesen charts because electronics fail
and Ink/Toner costs a lot or money!

And plates are useless if you don't file them every cycle and you
make no mistakes when you file them (like neglecting to pull the
D pages) etc...

Ink isn't all that expensive.


I am not talking about plates I am talking about enroute charts!

Oops, answering to my own post: What I wrote was thinking VFR. In some
countries, the government doesn't offer IFR charts. That's because the
IFR routes are not regulatory but strictly operational, hence the
government doesn't care. It's the decision of the ATC organisation
(which is owned, but not run by the government) to provide that information.

Stefan