If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....

ArtKramr wrote:

Nope.But in the last 60 years I constantly hear from guys who tell me how
lucky I was to be there and how they wished they had been there with us.
I was just wondering how those in this NG feel about that.

Modern desires to be a part of the WWII effort might be
aided in knowing what the outcome was! Would many Germans
or Japanese want to be a part of this fight knowing how it
ended or the fuller context of the war?

However, of all the wars fought during American history,
I'd say the Revolution, Civil War (Union) and WWII seem
most worthy of participation. If you're going to have to
be involved in a war, those are the ones I'd "choose" to
be a part of. (I think the current Iraqi effort has some
attractiveness too, at least in what it would like to
accomplish).

One thing that makes WWII "attractive" to those looking
back (certainly myself), is the way the nation seemed so
united. No one claiming FDR lacked military experience and
was incompetent to lead; FDR was just a rich guy letting
someone else provide the blood; that American policies
were the cause of the Japanese attack (they were); the
whole affair was just to get the US out of depression and
profits for corporations, ad infinitum.

Perhaps there was that, but it seemed drowned out by people
resolved to destroy the enemy no matter the cost. A broad
popular belief that it was a just cause. Truly a nation
working in lock step to accomplish a goal.


SMH

Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: Stephen Harding
Date: 2/27/04 3:48 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

ArtKramr wrote:

Nope.But in the last 60 years I constantly hear from guys who tell me how
lucky I was to be there and how they wished they had been there with us.
I was just wondering how those in this NG feel about that.

Modern desires to be a part of the WWII effort might be
aided in knowing what the outcome was! Would many Germans
or Japanese want to be a part of this fight knowing how it
ended or the fuller context of the war?

However, of all the wars fought during American history,
I'd say the Revolution, Civil War (Union) and WWII seem
most worthy of participation. If you're going to have to
be involved in a war, those are the ones I'd "choose" to
be a part of. (I think the current Iraqi effort has some
attractiveness too, at least in what it would like to
accomplish).

One thing that makes WWII "attractive" to those looking
back (certainly myself), is the way the nation seemed so
united. No one claiming FDR lacked military experience and
was incompetent to lead; FDR was just a rich guy letting
someone else provide the blood; that American policies
were the cause of the Japanese attack (they were); the
whole affair was just to get the US out of depression and
profits for corporations, ad infinitum.

Perhaps there was that, but it seemed drowned out by people
resolved to destroy the enemy no matter the cost. A broad
popular belief that it was a just cause. Truly a nation
working in lock step to accomplish a goal.


SMH


Most meaningful post on this subject so far. Thank you.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

(ArtKramr) wrote:

If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something?
Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any
regrets at having missed it? Anyone?

I've said it before on this NG that I wouldn't mind flying a Spad with
the Flying Circus over St. Mihiel or an Me-109 or Fw-190 on the
Eastern Front or a Stuka over Poland and/or France in '38-'39 or a
Hurricane or a Spit over the English Channel during the summer of 1940
or an F-6F over the South Pacific during the Marianas Turkey Shoot or
a shark-mouthed P-40 over Paoshan or a Thud in 'Nam or an Israeli
F-15C in the Bekka Valley or....


But do I have any regrets? Nah....



Trikes Rule baby!

(ArtKramr) wrote:

If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something?

What's a "had?" You mean my penis?

Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not?

There was a lot of lonely women left back in the USA! Nah! I'd rather be
getting the clean stuff, then the nasty old pot-belly girls you guys had to share...

Any regrets at having missed it?

Nope.

Anyone?

I probably would have liked to sit on the beach with one of those
gorgeous Italian babes!

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed
something?
Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than
not? Any
regrets at having missed it? Anyone?

Glamorizing war is for recruiting posters and the Hollywood movie
industry. I was born in 1939 so that's why the war may have started. I
guess the Yank war didn't start until 1941. Too young for Korea also but I
spent nearly 28 years in the RCAF/CAF with Norad and NATO squadrons as a
tech. Do I miss going to war? Hell NO! Only the innocent get killed and
crippled where the people responsible for the wars in most cases sit back
and make money from it. WWII was a war that had to be fought and won
however! Many of my relatives and friends were in the thick of it. Sadly
there are fewer of them left as time marches on.
Ed

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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed
something?
Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than
not? Any
regrets at having missed it? Anyone?

Glamorizing war is for recruiting posters and the Hollywood movie
industry. I was born in 1939 so that's why the war may have started. I
guess the Yank war didn't start until 1941. Too young for Korea also but I
spent nearly 28 years in the RCAF/CAF with Norad and NATO squadrons as a
tech. Do I miss going to war? Hell NO! Only the innocent get killed and
crippled where the people responsible for the wars in most cases sit back
and make money from it. WWII was a war that had to be fought and won
however! Many of my relatives and friends were in the thick of it. Sadly
there are fewer of them left as time marches on.
Ed

As they say, Old men start wars and young men fight them !!

BMC

In article ,
on 27 Feb 2004 01:25:47 GMT,
ArtKramr attempted to say .....

If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed something?
Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than not? Any
regrets at having missed it? Anyone?


Given that I wasn't alive then ?

Or that I volunteered direct out of high school in the 1970's and chose
infantry and Korea ?



--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed
something?
Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than
not? Any
regrets at having missed it? Anyone?

Not many are old enough to have had a choice.

Do you miss not having been in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or the myriad places
where the Cold War was fought?

Pete

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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| If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed
something?
| Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than
not? Any
| regrets at having missed it? Anyone?
|
|
| Arthur Kramer
| 344th BG 494th BS
| England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
| Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
| http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
|




I guess if I had to use up one of my 3 wishes on WWII Art, it would be for
Adolf Hitler to slip over in the bath and break his neck, some time in the
early '20s.


It would make a good movie and I'd enjoy sitting in the front row with all
my absent relatives and enjoying the special effects.



Glad you were there, gladder you came home.






Cheers


Dave Kearton

Subject: If yiu didn't fight in WW II.....
From: "Dave Kearton"
Date: 2/26/04 11:25 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
| If you didn't fight in WW II do you feel as though your had missed
something?
| Do you feel that given your druthers you'd rather have been there than
not? Any
| regrets at having missed it? Anyone?
|
|
| Arthur Kramer
| 344th BG 494th BS
| England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
| Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
| http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
|




I guess if I had to use up one of my 3 wishes on WWII Art, it would be for
Adolf Hitler to slip over in the bath and break his neck, some time in the
early '20s.


It would make a good movie and I'd enjoy sitting in the front row with all
my absent relatives and enjoying the special effects.



Glad you were there, gladder you came home.



Thank you. May we never forget absent friends.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer