NATCA Going Down in Flames

If you are going to get paid for being a professional, you should dress like
a professional.

When I worked ATC, it was not the white shirt and narrow tie, but dress
slacks "Dockers" and sport shirts or collared golf shirts with pocket were
expected with decent shoes.

You never knew when there would be a tour coming through, Boy Scouts, Rotary
Club, Local Pilots on a "Raincheck" program, or maybe even the US Senator or
House Rep.

Perception is the whole thing, look like a bum and people will think you
work like a bum.

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
As of today, the FAA has imposed a dress code on their employees,
requiring that they (*gasp!*) NOT where flip-flops and cut-offs to
work! Amazingly, believe it or not, these employees are now actually
going to be required to wear (*Oh-mi-God*) DRESS PANTS and a DRESS
SHIRT to work!

In the face of this terrible affront, the controller's union, NATCA,
has decided to do the following, quoted from AvWeb:
************************************************** ***********************************************
What's A Union To Do?
While the battle inside the towers and centers may (to outsiders) have
its whimsical side, the practical impact of the new regime could be
significant. NATCA appears determined to fight each and every violation
of the new rules cited by management. In a memo to controllers at a
major center (we do know which one), union leaders are urging members
to exercise their rights to the letter. "If a supervisor tries to talk
with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal
meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask
for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any
other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately.
The Agency has a legal obligation to comply." But the memo also says
the overall battle won't be won by individual members discussing their
fashion challenges. "One person alone can not change the course the
agency has decided to take," the memo says. "However, collectively we
can unpave their course and start a new road. I and the rest of your
elected leaders will need your help now more than ever."
************************************************** ***********************************************
Unbelievable! They're actually going to fight against their employer
for dictating what they must wear to work... Apparently their right to
look like bums in a professional setting has been violated, and the
union is going on the offensive!

Whenever we sit and wonder why the Bush Administration has been pushing
ATC privatization so hard, all we must do is read articles like this
one. Imagine -- these folks are up in arms because they have to wear a
dress shirt to work! Can you imagine what must go on in those towers
when a supervisor actually needs something of substance accomplished?

The next time the union sends me one of their whiny spam-mails, asking
for help in the fight against privatization, I'm going to send them
this post. These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and
us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight
about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see
ATC privatization.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:Ht2Lg.2558$8J2.2200@fed1read11...

If you are going to get paid for being a professional, you should dress
like a professional.

When I worked ATC, it was not the white shirt and narrow tie, but dress
slacks "Dockers" and sport shirts or collared golf shirts with pocket were
expected with decent shoes.

You never knew when there would be a tour coming through, Boy Scouts,
Rotary Club, Local Pilots on a "Raincheck" program, or maybe even the US
Senator or House Rep.

Perception is the whole thing, look like a bum and people will think you
work like a bum.


UPS delivery drivers wear shorts. They look professional.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
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UPS delivery drivers wear shorts. They look professional.


You think? I don't.

"Emily" wrote in message
. ..

You think? I don't.


I wouldn't have written it if I didn't.

Emily.. he must be gay

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Emily" wrote in message
. ..

You think? I don't.


I wouldn't have written it if I didn't.

It is also a "Uniform".. so lets require all ATC employees, NATCA or not, to
wear uniforms.. oh.. and they have to pay for them.. with no pay increase or
allowances to cover it.

And they better be starched with crisp creases.

BT

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:Ht2Lg.2558$8J2.2200@fed1read11...

If you are going to get paid for being a professional, you should dress
like a professional.

When I worked ATC, it was not the white shirt and narrow tie, but dress
slacks "Dockers" and sport shirts or collared golf shirts with pocket
were expected with decent shoes.

You never knew when there would be a tour coming through, Boy Scouts,
Rotary Club, Local Pilots on a "Raincheck" program, or maybe even the US
Senator or House Rep.

Perception is the whole thing, look like a bum and people will think you
work like a bum.


UPS delivery drivers wear shorts. They look professional.

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:cM3Lg.2564$8J2.673@fed1read11...

It is also a "Uniform".. so lets require all ATC employees, NATCA or not,
to wear uniforms.. oh.. and they have to pay for them.. with no pay
increase or allowances to cover it.

And they better be starched with crisp creases.


Why? What positive effect can there be in that?

And they better be starched with crisp creases.
Why? What positive effect can there be in that?

Air safety of course. Would you trust a vector given to you by somebody
who doesn't even starch their pants? g

Jose
--
The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 16:16:56 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote in Ht2Lg.2558$8J2.2200@fed1read11:

If you are going to get paid for being a professional, you should dress like
a professional.

One might expect to see some esprit de corps among controllers, and a
desire to elevate their stature by establishing their own dress code
independent of management. Of course, that would take proactive
leadership ...

I'm betting that dress codes are in the employee handbook.
Now the management have decided to enforce it.
High Lights the trouble makers.
And gives the union something to complain about.
Makes it seem to the membership that their Union Reps are working for their
best interest.

It seems that NATCA did not have the guts to talk with their feet on their
new contract that was forced down their throat. IIRC Prez Billy called their
bluff back in the early 90s contract negotiation also.

BT

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
As of today, the FAA has imposed a dress code on their employees,
requiring that they (*gasp!*) NOT where flip-flops and cut-offs to
work! Amazingly, believe it or not, these employees are now actually
going to be required to wear (*Oh-mi-God*) DRESS PANTS and a DRESS
SHIRT to work!

In the face of this terrible affront, the controller's union, NATCA,
has decided to do the following, quoted from AvWeb:
************************************************** ***********************************************
What's A Union To Do?
While the battle inside the towers and centers may (to outsiders) have
its whimsical side, the practical impact of the new regime could be
significant. NATCA appears determined to fight each and every violation
of the new rules cited by management. In a memo to controllers at a
major center (we do know which one), union leaders are urging members
to exercise their rights to the letter. "If a supervisor tries to talk
with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal
meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask
for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any
other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately.
The Agency has a legal obligation to comply." But the memo also says
the overall battle won't be won by individual members discussing their
fashion challenges. "One person alone can not change the course the
agency has decided to take," the memo says. "However, collectively we
can unpave their course and start a new road. I and the rest of your
elected leaders will need your help now more than ever."
************************************************** ***********************************************
Unbelievable! They're actually going to fight against their employer
for dictating what they must wear to work... Apparently their right to
look like bums in a professional setting has been violated, and the
union is going on the offensive!

Whenever we sit and wonder why the Bush Administration has been pushing
ATC privatization so hard, all we must do is read articles like this
one. Imagine -- these folks are up in arms because they have to wear a
dress shirt to work! Can you imagine what must go on in those towers
when a supervisor actually needs something of substance accomplished?

The next time the union sends me one of their whiny spam-mails, asking
for help in the fight against privatization, I'm going to send them
this post. These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and
us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight
about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see
ATC privatization.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"