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Old March 22nd 10, 06:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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On Mar 22, 11:40*am, jsbrake wrote:
I flew a L-33 with max pilot weight of 287#. *The POH of my Kestrel 19
limits pilot weight through CoG limitations and MTOW (dry).

As for the BGA allowance, I thought it was 3% -- at least that's
what's I've seen on the BGA Data Certificates.


BGA allowance varies by airframe. I've never seen above 10%, which
was two seaters.

Frank Whiteley
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Old March 22nd 10, 08:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Mar 22, 11:47*am, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Mar 22, 11:40*am, jsbrake wrote:

I flew a L-33 with max pilot weight of 287#. *The POH of my Kestrel 19
limits pilot weight through CoG limitations and MTOW (dry).


As for the BGA allowance, I thought it was 3% -- at least that's
what's I've seen on the BGA Data Certificates.


BGA allowance varies by airframe. *I've never seen above 10%, which
was two seaters.

Frank Whiteley


Has anyone seen the latest episode of "Pawn Stars" on the History
Channel (US)? It features an SGS 2-33 that was purchased as a wreck
and rebuilt. The last scene is a test flight with one of the "hefty"
characters of the series. Looked a little overloaded but flew. Anyone
know about the fate of that glider?
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Old March 23rd 10, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
ken
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In article
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jsbrake wrote:

I flew a L-33 with max pilot weight of 287#.


Inasmuch as the L-33 POH gives the pilot weight range as 121 to 243
pounds, is that something you really want to declare in public? Golly.

When I was 19, I rode my 500cc Yamaha about 90 mph down a 30 mph rural
Delaware dirt road to beat a freight train to an intersection so I
wouldn't have to wait for it to pass. I made it. This
flying-over-placarded-weight thread has the same feel.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't do the train race today. Besides having been
immortal then, I don't think I understood the idea of error chains and
margins. Several motorcycle crashes later, I came to like margins.

--ken
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Old March 23rd 10, 11:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Derek C
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On 22 mar, 18:47, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Mar 22, 11:40*am, jsbrake wrote:

I flew a L-33 with max pilot weight of 287#. *The POH of my Kestrel 19
limits pilot weight through CoG limitations and MTOW (dry).


As for the BGA allowance, I thought it was 3% -- at least that's
what's I've seen on the BGA Data Certificates.


BGA allowance varies by airframe. *I've never seen above 10%, which
was two seaters.

Frank Whiteley


The 3% limit is probably on the maximum all up weight, not the cockpit
load. The increase was to allow two averagely large middle-aged gents
to legally fly two-seater trainers wearing parachutes. Aerobatics are
not permitted over the manufacturers recommended limits, and the 110Kg
(242lb) maximum seat loading still applies.

Derek C
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Old March 23rd 10, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jsbrake[_2_]
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On Mar 22, 7:37*pm, ken wrote:

Inasmuch as the L-33 POH gives the pilot weight range as 121 to 243
pounds, is that something you really want to declare in public? Golly.

The ship I flew was placarded for a maximum of 287# from the factory
-- I can only assume that the factory approved of that pilot weight,
regardless of what might be in the POH.
I never stated that I flew it at that weight, but I understand how one
might have inferred such.
 




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