Crash pilot who paused to pray is convicted

Strabo writes:

Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
was much different than it is today.

Islam was intended to moderate some of the more extreme Arab customs, IMO.

Tim wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Tim wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote

As it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are
quite

strict about making face masking of females illegal.

Shame, I was kind of hoping it might catch on in many areas of the US.
Especially places like WalMart and Kmart.

LOL ! Kinda know what you mean. As it happens, there are quite a few
Muslims in the area I live in. The other say I was at the checkout in the
local
supermarket and although she had had her hair covered, I couldn't help but
notice a
teen female Muslim (a) because she had a nice face and (b) to my amusement
was
wearing make-up that complemented her eyes very well. A bit Goth-like
actually. I'd rate her as rather attractive. Those kids don't want to be
forced into
arranged marriages with goatherd Uncles from Pakistan. Give it time.

Agreed. But the girls I talking about aren't Muslims, their locals. But they
would look much better face masking.

I got what you meant. ;~)

Graham

Eeyore wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
Christians there too.

Graham
Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
a lot of pointless wars.
US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.

Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"

I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
making face masking of females illegal.


Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
was much different than it is today.

Burkhas and masks were not a part of early Islam. These are impositions
piled on later by the usual culprits.



Graham

Strabo wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
Christians there too.

Graham
Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
a lot of pointless wars.
US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.

Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"

I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
making face masking of females illegal.


Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist.

Well he had several wives including a 9 y.o.or so IIRC.


Arab culture at the time was much different than it is today.

Yes, they were quite scientific at one point.


Burkhas and masks were not a part of early Islam. These are impositions
piled on later by the usual culprits.

The usual distortions of religious writings. One reason there are so may muslim sects with
varying attitudes.

Some interesting info here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Arab_societies

Graham

Eeyore wrote:

Strabo wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
BTW, Tunisia is one of the more enlightened Arab countries. They have
Christians there too.

Graham
Fine with me. Live in Tunisia, die like a raghead.
Would you care to explain what you mean by that ? US xenophobia is responsible for
a lot of pointless wars.
US xenophobia? Interesting choice of terms. Utterly buffoonish and has
the same impact as a rancid fart. but interesting none the less.

Could you please give us some examples of "US xenophobia"?
Use of the word 'raghead' would be a decent starting point. Note my other post where
Tunisia has co-operated with US forces dealing with Islamists.
Still waiting for your examples of "US xenophobia"

I would say using the term 'raghead' as a catch-all for Arabs / Moslems is xenophobic. As
it happens some of the Mediterranean primarily Islamic countries are quite strict about
making face masking of females illegal.


Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist.

Well he had several wives including a 9 y.o.or so IIRC.

Arab culture at the time was much different than it is today.

Yes, they were quite scientific at one point.

Burkhas and masks were not a part of early Islam. These are impositions
piled on later by the usual culprits.

The usual distortions of religious writings. One reason there are so may muslim sects with
varying attitudes.

Some interesting info here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Arab_societies

More here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhamma...s_and_children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Marriage_to_Muhammad

Graham

Mxsmanic wrote:

Strabo writes:

Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
was much different than it is today.

Islam was intended to moderate some of the more extreme Arab customs, IMO.

At the time that was probably true.

Graham

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Strabo writes:

Of course it was, to us. But then fatalistic Islam contains impediments
to develop technology such as we have.

Just one of many ways by which Islam is antithetical to free thought,
free commerce and a free republic.

You're confusing Islam itself with the odd habits of some cultures that
happen
to include many Muslims. For example, many people mistakenly attribute
Arab
cultural habits to Islam, when in fact they are two different things.

Hi dumb ass, have you been ordained, or something, since the last time your
rattled your empty head here?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Strabo writes:

Mohammend's wife did not wear a veil. True. Part of history. She
was by all accounts something of a feminist. Arab culture at the time
was much different than it is today.

Islam was intended to moderate some of the more extreme Arab customs, IMO.

Well when was the last time anyone gave a **** about your opinion around
here?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Strabo writes:

Of course it was, to us. But then fatalistic Islam contains impediments
to develop technology such as we have.

Just one of many ways by which Islam is antithetical to free thought,
free commerce and a free republic.

You're confusing Islam itself with the odd habits of some cultures that happen
to include many Muslims. For example, many people mistakenly attribute Arab
cultural habits to Islam, when in fact they are two different things.

For example Islamic is NOT Islamist.

Graham