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Old March 3rd 05, 09:12 PM
Bravo8500
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Default IFR w/pax under Single-Pilot/Single Aircraft 135

Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.

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Old March 3rd 05, 10:12 PM
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In rec.aviation.owning Bravo8500 wrote:
Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.


Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The FAA just will not issue
a Part 135 certificate for single-engine/single-pilot IFR with
passengers.

I've even tried to purchase an existing certificate... but the FAA
will also not allow the transfer. :-)

If anyone else has better/more-current information about HOW to
accomplish a Part 135 certificate single-engine/single-pilot IFR and
Night with passengers, please contact me, too!!!!

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

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CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer'at'frii.com WEB http://users.frii.com/jer/
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Old March 4th 05, 01:25 AM
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I thought that you could do it with a turboprop (PC-12)?

Mike
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In rec.aviation.owning Bravo8500 wrote:
Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.


Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The FAA just will not issue
a Part 135 certificate for single-engine/single-pilot IFR with
passengers.

I've even tried to purchase an existing certificate... but the FAA
will also not allow the transfer. :-)

If anyone else has better/more-current information about HOW to
accomplish a Part 135 certificate single-engine/single-pilot IFR and
Night with passengers, please contact me, too!!!!

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer'at'frii.com WEB http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider, FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot, BM218 HAM N0FZD, 222 Young Eagles!



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Old March 4th 05, 02:32 AM
Scott Skylane
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Mike Rapoport wrote:

I thought that you could do it with a turboprop (PC-12)?



There are a couple of outfits here in Alaska that run PC-12's Part 135,
IFR, single pilot.

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane
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Old March 5th 05, 07:39 AM
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I think Mike is correct... Of course, I was thinking of something
- I - could afford to fly. :-) ... A 4-cycle engine. :-)


Thanks Mike!

Jer/

In rec.aviation.ifr Mike Rapoport wrote:
I thought that you could do it with a turboprop (PC-12)?


Mike
MU-2


wrote in message
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In rec.aviation.owning Bravo8500 wrote:
Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.


Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The FAA just will not issue
a Part 135 certificate for single-engine/single-pilot IFR with
passengers.

I've even tried to purchase an existing certificate... but the FAA
will also not allow the transfer. :-)

If anyone else has better/more-current information about HOW to
accomplish a Part 135 certificate single-engine/single-pilot IFR and
Night with passengers, please contact me, too!!!!

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer'at'frii.com WEB http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider, FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot, BM218 HAM N0FZD, 222 Young Eagles!





Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer'at'frii.com WEB http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider, FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot, BM218 HAM N0FZD, 222 Young Eagles!
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Old March 4th 05, 01:40 AM
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In article , wrote:
In rec.aviation.owning Bravo8500 wrote:
Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.


Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The FAA just will not issue
a Part 135 certificate for single-engine/single-pilot IFR with
passengers.


This seems odd. Can the Pilatus (single engine) be flown single
pilot? Seems to be a candidate for Part 135 use.

I realize 14 CFR 135.4 states explicitly two crewmembers for an
on-demand operation but where is the exclusion of single engine? or
alternatively, the definition that requires 2+ engines? I can't find
it in my copy of the FARs. But then, I'm not suffering from
insomnia, so I'm not reading it closely.....

(*chortle*)


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Old March 8th 05, 04:45 AM
Richard Kaplan
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Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The FAA just will not issue
a Part 135 certificate for single-engine/single-pilot IFR with
passengers.


I recently held a single-engine/single-pilot day/night known-icing
certificate for my piston Cessna P210 until I chose (for reasons unrelated
to the FAA) to discontinue it -- absolutely that is possible.


--------------------
Richard Kaplan

www.flyimc.com




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Old March 8th 05, 04:55 AM
Richard Kaplan
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Unfortunately, it is not going to happen. The FAA just will not issue
a Part 135 certificate for single-engine/single-pilot IFR with
passengers.


I recently held a single-engine/single-pilot day/night known-icing
certificate for my piston Cessna P210 until I chose (for reasons unrelated
to the FAA) to discontinue it -- absolutely that is possible.


--------------------
Richard Kaplan

www.flyimc.com




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Old March 4th 05, 12:05 AM
Stan Gosnell
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"Bravo8500" wrote in
oups.com:

Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.


The limitations are that you can't do it. Period.

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Regards,

Stan

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." B. Franklin
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Old March 4th 05, 12:24 AM
John Clonts
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"Stan Gosnell" wrote in message ...
"Bravo8500" wrote in
oups.com:

Anybody know what the limitations are on flying IFR with passengers in
a single-engine under a single-pilot, single-aircraft part 135 cert?
Thanks for any info, I can't glean it from reading part 135.


The limitations are that you can't do it. Period.


I was thinking that Richard Kaplan did that in his P210, but I haven't seen any posts on usenet from him in
quite a while....yes, here it is (or google for "kaplan 135")...

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...7b00ccc1c61305

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ


 




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