Allied Air launched rockets of ww2

Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.

Prowlus wrote:

Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.


It may have to do with the fact that shooting down a 550+ mph jet
fighter with unguided, relatively slow (~ Mach 1), short-range rockets
is much harder than doing it with a stream of bullets. In Korea,
bullets were good enough to bring down quite a lot of fast jets!

Andreas

"Prowlus" wrote in message
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Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.

Given that the bullets were faster than the rockets
and that there was zero chance of achieving a hit
it seems unlikely to have been considered a good idea.

Keith




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Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.

Given that the bullets were faster than the rockets
and that there was zero chance of achieving a hit
it seems unlikely to have been considered a good idea.

Keith




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Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.

Given that the bullets were faster than the rockets
and that there was zero chance of achieving a hit
it seems unlikely to have been considered a good idea.

Keith




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Of course the UK had ground based rocket AA defense systems. Not sure how
effective they were ! but to see and hear them was pretty impressive :-))

BMC

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Of course the UK had ground based rocket AA defense systems. Not sure how
effective they were ! but to see and hear them was pretty impressive :-))


Which was their major value as I recall. They were pretty much
phased out in 1941 which is a pretty good indicator.

The Wire-Barrage Rocket Projectile was also fitted to
naval vessels in the early part of the war. Most were
removed when it was realised that not only were they
ineffective but the poor stability of the projectiles and
warheads made them a hazard to the ships on which
they were mounted.

Keith




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In article , Keith Willshaw keithnospam@kwillshaw
..demon.co.uk writes

"Brian Colwell" wrote in message
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Of course the UK had ground based rocket AA defense systems. Not sure how
effective they were ! but to see and hear them was pretty impressive :-))


Which was their major value as I recall. They were pretty much
phased out in 1941 which is a pretty good indicator.

The Wire-Barrage Rocket Projectile was also fitted to
naval vessels in the early part of the war. Most were
removed when it was realised that not only were they
ineffective but the poor stability of the projectiles and
warheads made them a hazard to the ships on which
they were mounted.

Keith


To quote the late, great, Roger Bacon...

'The first generation of air-to-air missiles could not hit anything,
apart from, occasionally, the launching aircraft.

The second generation of air-to-air missiles could hit the target, but
only with the targets extreme co-operation.

The third generation of air-to-air missiles - whoosh, zap, aarrgh!'

Cheers,

Dave

--
Dave Eadsforth

The third generation of air-to-air missiles - whoosh, zap, aarrgh!'

Well said. PK edged much closer to 1.0

G

In article ,
Prowlus wrote:
Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.

The VVS was using air-air rockets against the Japanese over Manchuria
in 1938 or so. They made quite extensive use of them in the early
part of the war against Germany (before giving them up as ineffective,
iSTR).
Compared with the allies (well, the Russians) the germans were very slow
in trying air-to-air rockets.

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In article ,
Prowlus wrote:
Does anyone know why the allies didn't consider using their air
lauched rockets as air-to-air weapons during the war when the jets
started appearing? I thought it would have been a good idea to ward
off any attack from ME-262s or me-163s which were too fast to attack
with guns.

The VVS was using air-air rockets against the Japanese over Manchuria
in 1938 or so. They made quite extensive use of them in the early
part of the war against Germany (before giving them up as ineffective,
iSTR).

Compared with the allies (well, the Russians) the germans were very slow
in trying air-to-air rockets.

And the nature of the intended targets (relatively large and slow
bomber formations rather than small, fast, and nimble fighters, jabos, etc.)
made the german AA rocket a viable option at that point in the war.

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