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Old February 16th 06, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"flybabybuilder" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:12:26 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
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"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message
news How about this puppy

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/Vi...vidId=51023&ca


It's a gyroplane with folding rotor. Just goes to prove that the patent
office is doing any "prior art" checks before they give the things out.

The liability of driving a prop propelled motorcycle on public streets
is
frightening.


Short of commuting in a tank it sounds like a commuters dream.


Well let's assume you make it to the street where your office is and land
safely. You then have to shut it down fold up the wing and then restart
and
drive it down the street where somebody IS going to walk into the prop.
This
will probably happen during the first week.


Niche commuter market, indeed. Take off from your exurban neighborhood
fifty miles from downtown (have a look at the Dallas Class B chart
sometime). You land on the roof of your building, or in the parking
lot, having designated it as a private heliport.


Two problems first, it's not a helicopter it's a gyrocopter, their vertical
takeoff and landing abilities are not the same. Second, if you are going to
land at you own helipad at your building why have the motorcycle like on
rode ability.



Would NOT want to turn quickly on the road, though. Three wheels and a
high CG spells "tippy".



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Old February 16th 06, 06:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Would you even be allowed to drive this thing on the road--how would
you get it licensed?

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Old February 16th 06, 06:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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when is $25,000 cheap?
"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message
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How about this puppy

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/Vi...vidId=51023&ca



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Old February 16th 06, 07:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Would you even be allowed to drive this thing on the road--how would
you get it licensed?

Probably depends on the state. Here it wouldn't be a problem (Wy).
The operator could probably measure his/her lifespan in minutes after
the first rock chipped a fellow commuters windshield
.......................... It's a toss-up if it would be 9mm or 40 SW

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Old February 16th 06, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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I was going to say that he must be related to Moeller, but his flies so
he can't be...

denny

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Old February 16th 06, 10:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
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"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message
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How about this puppy

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/Vi...vidId=51023&ca


It's a gyroplane with folding rotor. Just goes to prove that the patent
office is doing any "prior art" checks before they give the things out.


Did you read the claims? The patent could cover something like the
particular method for folding the rotors, the way the latch works, or some
bit of the design.

The description of the perfered embodyment may cover basic things like
gyrocopters and how they work, but the only thing that is actually protected
by the patent is what is in the clams.

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Old February 16th 06, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Tater Schuld" wrote in message
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when is $25,000 cheap?
"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message
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How about this puppy


http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/Vi...vidId=51023&ca

Compared to $325,000, it is cheap. Compared to some SUV's and mini-vans, it
is cheap.

Tell us, tater, why are you so hung up on money? Do you really expect to
get a useful flying machine cheap? Do you value your life so little?

Are you unable to get a job that pays well enough, to pay for something as
low as $25,000?

I don't get it. What reality do you live in, that makes flying a cheap
hobby, or way of life?
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Jim in NC

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Old February 17th 06, 02:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Denny wrote:
I was going to say that he must be related to Moeller, but his flies so
he can't be...

denny


Such flying machines will never be used for commuting to any extent.
Just picture the aerial traffic problems and the infa structure that
would be required to control it. The dreams of everyone having one
will never happen no matter how cheap and practical they get due to the
mayhem that would ensue. Jeez, we can't even keep cars from running
into each other.

Harry K

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Old February 17th 06, 06:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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In article .com,
"Harry K" wrote:

Denny wrote:
I was going to say that he must be related to Moeller, but his flies so
he can't be...

denny


Such flying machines will never be used for commuting to any extent.
Just picture the aerial traffic problems and the infa structure that
would be required to control it. The dreams of everyone having one
will never happen no matter how cheap and practical they get due to the
mayhem that would ensue. Jeez, we can't even keep cars from running
into each other.

Harry K


"Never" is a pretty strong word, Harry. It wasn't so long ago that the
idea of everyone owning a car was laughable. And don't forget the idea
(which has been credited to various people by creative historians) that
the worldwide market for computers might number in the tens.

The flying motorcycle in question might not be the ubiquitous personal
transport of tomorrow any more than Moeller's skycar, but serious
thinkers are already planning for the Jetson's. Small planes flown by
computer, possibly in ground effect, could eliminate congestion, shorten
commutes, and massively reduce the need for building and maintaining
highways.

Smitty
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Old February 17th 06, 11:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Smitty Two" wrote in message

The flying motorcycle in question might not be the ubiquitous personal
transport of tomorrow any more than Moeller's skycar, but serious
thinkers are already planning for the Jetson's. Small planes flown by
computer, possibly in ground effect, could eliminate congestion, shorten
commutes, and massively reduce the need for building and maintaining
highways.


It's fiine that people are thinking about it. But in this case without some
huge technology shift it'll remain a dream. You require something that will
haul the family, groceries, vacation luggage and fly in bad weather and
severe wind. And yet be controllable by your average cellphone talker.
Nobody is going to take on remote piloting liabilities. Remember that all
this has to be cheaper than commuting in a car, in the face of rising energy
costs. On top of all that you have a fair percentage of the population who
are scared to death of the notion of flight.

And to be honest, I'd rather flying remained the domain of the few who
really appreciate it.


 




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