Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.


Hmm. Well, best of luck with that. I've lived under one traffic pattern
or another pretty much all my life and I haven't gotten tired of it yet!

-c

gatt wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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They shut down NWPilot's historical old grass strip airport for
development. Last time I drove by, it's closed, but the field itself is
still undeveloped. 'Course with the huge condos all around so close to
the airport that they required red lights on the roof, it's no surprise
that complaints against the airport exploded and the outside developers
were able to make a case to shut it down.


Where abouts are you located, gatt?

We are looking at a possible move up to the Portland area this summer.


East of Portland, a few miles from Troutdale Aiport at the mouth of the
Columbia Gorge. Excellent airport. Portland's expensive right now but
the housing market is flattening. email me at gatt at juggerbot dot com
if you have any questions about moving.

-chris



Sent email.

In article ,
"gatt" wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.

In other words, screwing over other people for (your) fun and profit.

Charming.

Hmm. Well, best of luck with that. I've lived under one traffic pattern
or another pretty much all my life and I haven't gotten tired of it yet!

He sounds like an ambulance chaser looking for a more sedentary life.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:25:55 -0400, Peter Dohm wrote:

Now, I also have to forget all the "legal" and "developer" advice about HOAs
as well.

Peter

If you are talking to me, I never give any legal advice. If you want to
talk HOAs, ignore or listen as you desire.

If you don't live in a subdivision with deed restricting HOAs, why would
you care in the first place?
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:07:25 -0700, gatt wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.

Hmm. Well, best of luck with that. I've lived under one traffic pattern
or another pretty much all my life and I haven't gotten tired of it yet!

-c

Thanks. Environmental accountability, FYI, doesn't include traffic
patterns in the sense that I meant it. More about wetlands, mitigations,
etc.
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:38:25 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:

In article ,
"gatt" wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.

In other words, screwing over other people for (your) fun and profit.

Charming.

No, that would be your words, Hix. Convolution noted for your w/e
agenda.
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
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might kill someone.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:27:47 -0700 (PDT), Dan wrote:

On Mar 18, 6:48 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

I smell a red herring...

Dan Mc

Get your nose out of the fish section then.

You made a funny!

You're so darn clever.

And yet so useless....

Dan Mc

Pass it along

To BobR

When you figure it out.

Ever

http://www.penney.org/ggkiller.html
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.

Many years ago I had a '170 based at the Waunakee Wisconsin airpark. I was
coming in to land and a little
fellow cuts towards the runway on his bike. As I overfly he drops it right
on the centerline and bolts.
Now there was enough runway left in the denominator and with careful
attention to any more animal crossings I land and scoop up the offending
bicycle.

Pretty soon his lawyer shows up with some sort of explaination I cannot
remember in an effort to get the bike back -- and I get a good chance to
give the Airport Safety Lecture. I suggest that if he would like to sit in
the plane and put the headphones on that is fine. Now the rest of The
Little Rascals are hiding behind rocks and bushes nearby watching to see
what happens. I suggest that if someone can produce a responsible parent
there might be enough daylight for a ride or two. Eventually some parents
are located and it is another chance to reinforce the airport safety lecture
(and make sure bail was posted and a sentencing hearing was scheduled).

One mom had been in the Navy which made her most qualified to interview hobo
pilot and she asked various questions about my freshmen flying background
(she even looked at my logbook). One or two of the kids got Young Eagles
certificates. One of the others certainly learned his lesson as I can be
sure Navy-Mom narced on him.

I did give him his bike back.
Todd





"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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I just read several airpark descriptions, many were relating the fact that
kids were riding their bicycles not only along the strip but across the
strips. Including 3 wheelers, etc.
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:06:10 -0500, Todd W. Deckard wrote:

Many years ago I had a '170 based at the Waunakee Wisconsin airpark. I was
coming in to land and a little
fellow cuts towards the runway on his bike. As I overfly he drops it right
on the centerline and bolts.
Now there was enough runway left in the denominator and with careful
attention to any more animal crossings I land and scoop up the offending
bicycle.

Pretty soon his lawyer shows up with some sort of explaination I cannot
remember in an effort to get the bike back -- and I get a good chance to
give the Airport Safety Lecture. I suggest that if he would like to sit in
the plane and put the headphones on that is fine. Now the rest of The
Little Rascals are hiding behind rocks and bushes nearby watching to see
what happens. I suggest that if someone can produce a responsible parent
there might be enough daylight for a ride or two. Eventually some parents
are located and it is another chance to reinforce the airport safety lecture
(and make sure bail was posted and a sentencing hearing was scheduled).

One mom had been in the Navy which made her most qualified to interview hobo
pilot and she asked various questions about my freshmen flying background
(she even looked at my logbook). One or two of the kids got Young Eagles
certificates. One of the others certainly learned his lesson as I can be
sure Navy-Mom narced on him.

I did give him his bike back.
Todd

lol Great story, thx.

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:56:00 -0500, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:58:19 GMT, Blueskies wrote:

wrote in message ...
On Mar 10, 6:05 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:31:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
If that bothers you don't think of landing at some of our back country
strips out here in the west. You would have a heart attack at most of
them trying to thread the needle of trees, cliffs, creeks, stumps,
critters, etc.......
Ben
www.haaspowerair.com
N801BH
It's a little different when you miss a landing a kill a few pines v.s. the
neighbor's kids.
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The trick is to not "miss a landing"... Can you say,, Go
Around ??????????

No offense but this is like arguing with a 16 yo (not you personally) "Dad,
there is a stop sign, people STOP."

Most houses are closer to the street than any runway is to any house. On
those streets are cars driving just as fast as the average airplane
lands and they way many times more which means there is much more energy
there in the case of an accident.

Then there are trains and train tracks but two things differ.

1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.

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