British Airways flies planes empty because it lacks flight attendants

British Airways has admitted flying dozens of "ghost flights" across the
Atlantic, with only pilots and cargo aboard (and no passengers), because it
doesn't have the crews to staff the flights with passengers:

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...5276864& pt=Y

Some of the ghost flights are apparently flown just to keep slots at major
airports active, even though every ghost flight burns tons of fuel.

Why don't they just hire more FAs? Or--like several other airlines--do they
make so much from hauling cargo across the Atlantic that they don't need
passengers to turn a profit?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

British Airways has admitted flying dozens of "ghost flights" across
the Atlantic, with only pilots and cargo aboard (and no passengers),
because it doesn't have the crews to staff the flights with
passengers:

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...ap=viewThis&et
MailToID=2055276864&pt=Y

Some of the ghost flights are apparently flown just to keep slots at
major airports active, even though every ghost flight burns tons of
fuel.

Why don't they just hire more FAs?


Maybe they could just get some virtual attendants and pax, eh?

Fjukkwit



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

British Airways has admitted flying dozens of "ghost flights" across
the Atlantic, with only pilots and cargo aboard (and no passengers),
because it doesn't have the crews to staff the flights with
passengers:

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...ap=viewThis&et
MailToID=2055276864&pt=Y

Some of the ghost flights are apparently flown just to keep slots at
major airports active, even though every ghost flight burns tons of
fuel.

Why don't they just hire more FAs?


Maybe they could just get some virtual attendants and pax, eh?

Fjukkwit



Bertie


Now if I could just get BA to pay me for the box they lost on a f&^*%$##
airfreight I had shipped over in March.

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DW

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:55:19 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

British Airways has admitted flying dozens of "ghost flights" across the
Atlantic, with only pilots and cargo aboard (and no passengers), because it
doesn't have the crews to staff the flights with passengers:

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...5276864& pt=Y

Some of the ghost flights are apparently flown just to keep slots at major
airports active, even though every ghost flight burns tons of fuel.

Why don't they just hire more FAs? Or--like several other airlines--do they
make so much from hauling cargo across the Atlantic that they don't need
passengers to turn a profit?


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As I read the article, they can dead head west and carry full
passengers east and still make a profit on round trip.

Bertie. Couldn't you call what they are doing, positioning, which is a
common activity in the Airline/Commercial business?

Big John

Big John wrote in
:

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:55:19 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

British Airways has admitted flying dozens of "ghost flights" across
the Atlantic, with only pilots and cargo aboard (and no passengers),
because it doesn't have the crews to staff the flights with
passengers:

http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...ap=viewThis&et
MailToID=2055276864&pt=Y

Some of the ghost flights are apparently flown just to keep slots at
major airports active, even though every ghost flight burns tons of
fuel.

Why don't they just hire more FAs? Or--like several other
airlines--do they make so much from hauling cargo across the Atlantic
that they don't need passengers to turn a profit?


*************************************
As I read the article, they can dead head west and carry full
passengers east and still make a profit on round trip.

Bertie. Couldn't you call what they are doing, positioning, which is a
common activity in the Airline/Commercial business?


Yep. We do it quite a bit, in fact. Lots of different reasons but they're
commonplace.


Bertie

Big John writes:

As I read the article, they can dead head west and carry full
passengers east and still make a profit on round trip.

A number of transatlantic carriers make so much on cargo for each crossing
that the revenue from passengers is gravy. Oddly, you don't see them lowering
ticket prices in consequence, and they certainly don't admit that passengers
are essentially 100% profit.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Big John writes:

As I read the article, they can dead head west and carry full
passengers east and still make a profit on round trip.

A number of transatlantic carriers make so much on cargo for each
crossing that the revenue from passengers is gravy. Oddly, you don't
see them lowering ticket prices in consequence, and they certainly
don't admit that passengers are essentially 100% profit.




You're an idiot and have no idea of what you're talking about.


Bertie

Do these carriers use full size (7X7 or 3XX) airplanes on these 'gotta
keep the slots occupied' flights, or will anything with the range and
speed fill the use requirements?

On Nov 15, 11:51 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

Big John writes:

As I read the article, they can dead head west and carry full
passengers east and still make a profit on round trip.

A number of transatlantic carriers make so much on cargo for each
crossing that the revenue from passengers is gravy. Oddly, you don't
see them lowering ticket prices in consequence, and they certainly
don't admit that passengers are essentially 100% profit.

You're an idiot and have no idea of what you're talking about.

Bertie

Tina wrote in
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Do these carriers use full size (7X7 or 3XX) airplanes on these 'gotta
keep the slots occupied' flights, or will anything with the range and
speed fill the use requirements?


That's not so common, so it's wahtever needs to be positioned ot wherever
to pick up the next trip, really.

And Anthony is talking crap as usual since hardly any airfreight is carried
in Pax aircraft since 9-11 for obvious reasons.

Even pax baggage recovery or overload is carried in freighters these days.
Carriers still do carry freight, but nothing like what thye used to.


Bertie

Tina writes:

Do these carriers use full size (7X7 or 3XX) airplanes on these 'gotta
keep the slots occupied' flights, or will anything with the range and
speed fill the use requirements?

Full-size.