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"Michael 182" wrote in message
et...
A serious question, though: Assuming the cause of fan stoppage was not
due
to failure of the battery...

I'm probably missing something, but how would a dead battery stop the prop
(assuming fan means prop) ?

Scenario 1: battery dies, rendering fuel transfer pumps inoperable but for
some reason the pilot doesn't notice. Subsequent fuel starvation because
the fuel didn't get transferred as the pilot assumed it did causes engine to
stop.

Scenario 2: a leak in the battery causes the battery box floor to be
corroded and fall out, allowing the battery to drop out, which (in addition
to causing an electrical failure) yanks on a wire that is connected to the
starter, pulling it from its mounts (loose bolts not noticed during the
preflight) and jamming it in the flywheel, causing the engine to freeze up.

Yeah, I know...you're probably wondering more about realistic scenarios. Oh
well...can't help you there...

Pete

"Sydney Hoeltzli" wrote ...
If a pilot doesn't practice it regularly enough to be comfy
when needed, they're missing a portion of their proficiency.

Sydney (has flaps, will slip with and without them)

My Cheetah has flaps, but the only time I ever use them (or check to see if
they even work) is during my BFR since some instructors want to see you do
flap landings even in aircraft whose flaps don't do that much to stall speed
(2 kts)... I can do some pretty radical slips though -- one wing down all
the way until just right before the flare...

Jim Fisher wrote:

Additional points should be deducted for him violating the TFR around
sporting events but let's not be anal.


I don't think those TFRs apply to Little League! I think cruising at 500
feet AGL puts him the running for a Darwin Award.
-angus

"Michael 182" wrote in message

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
...

A serious question, though: Assuming the cause of fan stoppage was not
due
to failure of the battery...



I'm probably missing something, but how would a dead battery stop the prop
(assuming fan means prop) ?

Naw, you're not missing anything. A dead battery would not cause a fan
stoppage. That's why I was "assuming" the fan stoppage was not due to a
battery failure.

--
Jim Fisher

I'm thinking he was actually in violation of the FAR that says you have to
fly high enough to bbe able to land without undue risk to persons or
property on the ground in the case of an engine failure. Granted, he got it
down well, but it seems awful close to a whole lot of people.

If it was preventable fuel exhaustion, well...BUZZZZ...no credit.

mike regish

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message

I should probably take a point or two off for him cruising "500 to 1000
feet" AGL (according to someone in the video) without a really good
landing
spot picked out.

Additional points should be deducted for him violating the TFR around
sporting events but let's not be anal.

All points will be forfeited and the pilot disqualified if the cause turns
out to be fuel exhaustion.

--
Jim Fisher

"Angus Davis" wrote in message
...
Jim Fisher wrote:

Additional points should be deducted for him violating the TFR around
sporting events but let's not be anal.


I don't think those TFRs apply to Little League! I think cruising at 500
feet AGL puts him the running for a Darwin Award.
-angus


He is in Alaska, they all cruise at 500' for some reason. I picked up a
C182 in Anchorage that was bought by a student of mine and during the demo
flight we never got above 500'AGL. Don't know why. Everyone else I saw
flew that way too!

Sorry - I'm a little slow...

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
.. .
"Michael 182" wrote in message

"Jim Fisher" wrote in message
...

A serious question, though: Assuming the cause of fan stoppage was
not
due
to failure of the battery...



I'm probably missing something, but how would a dead battery stop the
prop
(assuming fan means prop) ?

Naw, you're not missing anything. A dead battery would not cause a fan
stoppage. That's why I was "assuming" the fan stoppage was not due to a
battery failure.

--
Jim Fisher

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:08:07 -0500, Big John wrote:
[reoredered to eliminate top posting]
and how many pilots nowadays (apart from those trained back in the
flapless days) would be happy slipping for the first time under such
conditions ???

I for one.

I even slipped jets if I was high/long with everything down (dirty)
and idle power.

Cool! but I'm sure it wasn't your first slip. :-)

The original discussion was about someone slipping for the first time
into a forced off-field landing. Now, as pointed out, this shouldn't
be one's first slip. In fact, IMHO, one should practice them regularly,
with or without flaps extended. (g,d,rlh)


Morris (owns 3 different "slips with flaps" tee shirt")

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"journeyman" wrote in message
u.com...
: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:08:07 -0500, Big John
wrote:
: [reoredered to eliminate top posting]
: and how many pilots nowadays (apart from those trained back in the
: flapless days) would be happy slipping for the first time under
such
: conditions ???
:
: I for one.
:
: I even slipped jets if I was high/long with everything down (dirty)
: and idle power.
:
: Cool! but I'm sure it wasn't your first slip. :-)
:
: The original discussion was about someone slipping for the first
time
: into a forced off-field landing. Now, as pointed out, this
shouldn't
: be one's first slip. In fact, IMHO, one should practice them
regularly,
: with or without flaps extended. (g,d,rlh)
:
:
: Morris (owns 3 different "slips with flaps" tee shirt")