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Old January 18th 08, 07:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default "socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:09:12 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:


"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:32:44 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
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"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Matt Whiting" wrote:

And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the
following
point by point. :-)

http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm


What's to refute?

"The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It
shows that
natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the
increase
of
atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during
this century.
But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core
measurements*
seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. "

That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the
CO2 leading the temp.

No, it's not - sorry. Try understanding CO2 forcing action.

I understand it quite well, which is why I'm emphasizing the CO2 is
leading. It's the opposite of what you'd expect. IOW we are not
seeing the CO2 forcing. What we are seeing is an *unnatural* rise
in CO2 that is not due to nature.

No, it is not un-natural...otherwise it what would explain the
4000ppm

If you take a look at the legitimate scientific studies you will
see that at present the CO2 rise is ahead of the temperature. Where
did the CO2 come from?
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...6/how-much-of-

th
e-recent-cosub2sub-increase-is-due-to-human-activities/

I'd believe realclimate.org about as much as I'd believe
NationalEnquirer.


Whichis what the researchers say about John daly. :-)) Neither side
can understand the other.:-))


At least Daly's work is backed by data that has NOT been refuted or
found to be fraudulent.

We're finding out that the greenies are unmitigated liars.


jesus wept.


Bertie



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Old January 18th 08, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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Default "socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton


"Matt W. Barrow" wrote:
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Matt W. Barrow" wrote:


Gullibility doesn't suit someone your age.


Haw!

That's rich, coming from someone who fell for crackpot Prof. Van Zandt's
"proof" that humanity can't possibly be causing the CO2 level to go up.

Did you think no one would remember?


Oh...as "refuted" by realclimate?


No; by me and Logajan.

You remember him, don't you?

The guy you lied about kill-filing.

And got caught.

I remember your "refutation".


Your memory is either failing or selective, Matt.

The math was wrong. The Professor mixed up carbon and carbon dioxide. This
was pointed out to you. You ran away.



And he never said humanity was causing it to go up...he said it was not
even a spit in the ocean.


I guess you meant to write "humanity *wasn't* causing it to go up."

Bull****.

That's exactly what he said.

And you fell for it because you'll fall for any crackpot denier BS you come
across.

Here's what the ol' perfesser concluded:

Quote:
8. Human activity, carried out at the present rate indefinately (more than
12 years) cannot possibly account for more than 6 per cent of the observed
change in CO2 levels.


Why don't you trying learning to comprehend rather than just barf back?


Haw-haw! Yer killin' me, Matt.

You want to give *me* advice about not barfing back?

After you regurgitated the ol' perfesser's BS in multiple places on usenet
without ever noticing it was based on an elementary error?

Tee-hee. You're a riot.


I remember, too, that your were quite taken by Michael Mann's glaring
fraud.

Get a clue.


Still clinging to the ol' hockey stick straw, aren't you, Matt?

You haven't been paying attention, have you?

Here's a clue or two for *you*:

In 2006 Congress mandated an investigation of Mann, et al.'s work by the
NRC. With a few reservations, the NRC's report endorsed the findings of
Mann et al, 1998 and Mann et al, 1999.

http://www.desmogblog.com/nrc-exoner...adian-skeptics

They certainly didn't find any fraud. Your calling Mann one is a lie.

And that was a long time ago. All subsequent proxy reconstructions
published by other scientists have produced graphs shaped like --guess
what?-- hockey sticks:

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki...Comparison_png

Try to keep up.

Or don't; I don't care.

But don't think you can post your usual crap in here and not get called on
it.


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM


 




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