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Old July 4th 03, 04:45 PM
pp
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Default OH-58 for Civilian use

Can anyone speak to the problems and challenges that I might encounter
in purchasing a OH-58A+ . I plan on using it for primarily for turbine
training but was wondering if there were any income producing
activities that could be done under the restricted designation.

Thanks
Peter

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Old July 8th 03, 03:20 AM
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Subject: OH-58 for Civilian use

I thought the military only gave/sold these aircraft to public safety
agencies (Police, Sheriffs Dept. etc)?

Gerard
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Old July 9th 03, 02:23 AM
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They do, however they eventually become surplus to these users as well. They
can sell at their discretion only after a couple years ( they don't even
have to be in use during this period) and can also trade for like value just
like the feds do. Many S-64 Skycranes were abtained using the trade method
direct from Feds to the private (commercial) owners. In fact a bunch are
being released now (OH-58s) because they are sometimes quite old and newer
units and brand new units are much easier to procure now that these agencys
have proven their use. Many of these agencies are procuring state of art
equippment. So tax payers are abliged.

just an opinion mindya
Jim




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Subject: OH-58 for Civilian use


I thought the military only gave/sold these aircraft to public safety
agencies (Police, Sheriffs Dept. etc)?

Gerard



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Old July 9th 03, 02:46 PM
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They do, however they eventually become surplus to these users as well.

Thanks
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Old July 9th 03, 06:24 PM
Paul Baechler
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In article , "Jim"
wrote:

They do, however they eventually become surplus to these users as well. They
can sell at their discretion only after a couple years ( they don't even
have to be in use during this period) and can also trade for like value just
like the feds do.


That depends on the transfer agreement.

Many S-64 Skycranes were abtained using the trade method
direct from Feds to the private (commercial) owners.


The CH-54s (S-64s) were sold, not traded. There's no real analogy
between the CH-54 and the OH-58, type certification was one of the
original procurement requirements for the "crane, and all major
components were overhauled in FAA approved facilities.

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Paul Baechler


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Old July 9th 03, 02:33 AM
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In the case of the military LOH OH-6A you can license it in the standard
catagorie and use it as you would use any H-500C or D by documenting all the
components serial numbers and times. If the component is new but with out
records you may be able to "half life" the component and still operate under
the standard license. Or replace any componet not in compliance with the
AWC. I have seen several of these used in turbine transition training ( not
first hand but on the internet). This may or may not apply to the OH-58 but
why not? The manufacturer may have significant leverage in this for
liability reasons, not sure. You could still train yourself in it licensed
Experimental or restricted, its under 12,000 lbs.

just an opinon mindya
Jim


"pp" wrote in message
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Can anyone speak to the problems and challenges that I might encounter
in purchasing a OH-58A+ . I plan on using it for primarily for turbine
training but was wondering if there were any income producing
activities that could be done under the restricted designation.

Thanks
Peter



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Old July 17th 03, 07:53 PM
Shaber CJ
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What are the differences between the OH-58 and the B206?

Craig
 




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