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Old January 21st 07, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In older aircraft that require flight engineers, are these flight
engineers qualified to fly the aircraft in an emergency? If not, what
qualifications do they have? Do they have to be pilots (i.e.,
licensed)?

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Old January 22nd 07, 12:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Define "qualified".
Passed a check ride in the pilot seat of that aircraft? no, Maybe not
Normally you may have been a FE working towards that FO seat and then Capt.

Qualified to fly in other aircraft... most likely..
get this one down in a pinch if both pilots got sick? most likely

Do they "have" to be "licensed" pilots? no

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In older aircraft that require flight engineers, are these flight
engineers qualified to fly the aircraft in an emergency? If not, what
qualifications do they have? Do they have to be pilots (i.e.,
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Old January 22nd 07, 08:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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BT writes:

Define "qualified".


Well, legally allowed and/or actually able to fly the aircraft (i.e.,
having pilot training in the aircraft or something).

I guess the question is gradually becoming moot as aircraft with
flight engineers disappear. It looks like a rather dreary job,
although perhaps on early aircraft that were more finicky it wasn't.

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Old January 22nd 07, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
BT writes:

Define "qualified".


Well, legally allowed and/or actually able to fly the aircraft (i.e.,
having pilot training in the aircraft or something).

I guess the question is gradually becoming moot as aircraft with
flight engineers disappear. It looks like a rather dreary job,
although perhaps on early aircraft that were more finicky it wasn't.



A lot of cargo haulers are still flying older planes with FE's. I asked
a friend what he did as a FE on 747. He said "everything". All the
pilots have to do is point the plane, the FE takes care of all the
engine management, pressurization, etc. Today much of that is automated
but I'm sure not a single crew would argue that a FE would be really
helpful in an emergency to take care of the systems while the pilots
focus on flying and communicating.

-Robert

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Old January 22nd 07, 12:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

In older aircraft that require flight engineers, are these flight
engineers qualified to fly the aircraft in an emergency? If not, what
qualifications do they have? Do they have to be pilots (i.e.,
licensed)?


Well, Mxsmanic, they're usually the most senior, most qualified member
of the crew. They're basically the "admiral" of the flight, so to
speak, and they're the top of the chain of command.

Pretty wild, eh?
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Old January 22nd 07, 02:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
karl gruber[_1_]
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MXMXMX, why? are you looking for a job?



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Old January 22nd 07, 03:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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In older aircraft that require flight engineers, are these flight
engineers qualified to fly the aircraft in an emergency? If not, what
qualifications do they have? Do they have to be pilots (i.e.,
licensed)?


In an emergency, does someone have to be a pilot to fly an aircraft?

Didn't you see "Snakes on a Plane?"

I figured that for your wildest fantasy!
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Old January 22nd 07, 08:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Judah writes:

In an emergency, does someone have to be a pilot to fly an aircraft?


No, but some minimal level of competence is required, even if it is
only the ability to push buttons today.

Didn't you see "Snakes on a Plane?"


No.

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Old January 22nd 07, 12:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Didn't you see "Snakes on a Plane?"


No.


You should see it. You will especially enjoy the ending.
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Old January 22nd 07, 01:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Judah wrote:
Didn't you see "Snakes on a Plane?"


i wonder if his computer can simulate a snake attack...

 




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