Throttle movement

Guy writes about the F-111- Bill Gunston, in his ARCO book on the F-111, says
that at least three
experienced pilots, including one company test pilot, got it wrong with serious
consequences. BRBR

I say-after flying the Turkey, Ifind it amazing they 'got it wrong' with the
wingsweep. Altho the F-14 wings were auto, every once in a while you moved them
around manually while airborne. It seems intuitive to me, particulalry since it
changed how the A/C 'felt', when moving them back. Plus the switch was aft for
back, forward for forward.
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

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Orval Fairbairn wrote:

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Max Richter wrote:

Hallo,
i know that French;Italian and Japanese airplanes prior and in WW2 had
an opostite throttlemovement than British;American and German airplanes.

I mean that to increase power you had to pull the Throttle backwards and
not forward.
Now i asumed that after WW2 with the availability of surplus British and
American planes to the mentioned countrys this habit was not longer
followed.
Now i read that the French got T28 in the early sixties and modified
them to the COIN-configeration and the reversal of the
throttlequadrantmovement was one of the mentioned modifikations.
Now my question: have Mirages or Rafales or any other airplanes this
oddity also.
Or became it extinct in the world.
Thank You
Max

If not, it should have become extinct!


Upon reflection, I have flown a friend's EADS Epsilon, which has the
"proper" throttle movement (push for thrust), so it appears that even
the French can make some progress!

Pechs1 wrote:

Guy writes about the F-111- Bill Gunston, in his ARCO book on the F-111, says
that at least three
experienced pilots, including one company test pilot, got it wrong with serious
consequences. BRBR

I say-after flying the Turkey, Ifind it amazing they 'got it wrong' with the
wingsweep. Altho the F-14 wings were auto, every once in a while you moved them
around manually while airborne. It seems intuitive to me, particulalry since it
changed how the A/C 'felt', when moving them back. Plus the switch was aft for
back, forward for forward.

Same with the F-111, but even so, mistakes occasionally happened. The problem was
that they sometimes happened in the F-111 on the deck at the speed of heat, when
there was no time to correct the mistake. I don't know if the accidents happened
with the wing sweep set up in the opposite way (forward = faster), as the OP asked;
I've never heard that they had to change it to the production Aft = faster, but
that might explain it. Another explanation that seems possible to me is that
moving from the throttles to the trombone handle requires a fairly natural
adjustment of hand position, while the F-14 wing sweep control seems to be
qualitatively different. Or maybe it's just that the MSP prevents you from
manually sweeping the wings if its going to cause problems? ISTR they lost a B-1
to similar incorrect wing sweep (throwing the Cg out of limits), so maybe the auto
system on the F-14 was just keeping you out of trouble.

Guy