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Old April 15th 08, 02:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 14, 4:09 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Apr 14, 5:02 pm, "Private" wrote:

I just found this on another forum, facts not verified, no commentary made.


Huge Dakota oil pool could change energy climate debate


Dems also decided that drilling in the Gulf of Mexico would be too
damaging for the environment so they are letting the Chinese do it
instead.

-Robert


You've got your facts wrong. The Outer Continental Shelf Moratorium to
which you refer was passed in 1981 and signed by Ronald Reagan. The
law has to be renewed on a yearly basis, which it has been by every
president and congress since then, including the current one. In
addition, in 1991 Bush Sr. added Leasing Deferrals which automatically
extended it to 2002.

The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil rights to
a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba, which in turn
leases their rights to the Chinese and others. None of this
information is difficult to find.
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Old April 15th 08, 02:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in message
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On Apr 14, 4:09 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Apr 14, 5:02 pm, "Private" wrote:

I just found this on another forum, facts not verified, no commentary
made.


Huge Dakota oil pool could change energy climate debate


Dems also decided that drilling in the Gulf of Mexico would be too
damaging for the environment so they are letting the Chinese do it
instead.

-Robert


You've got your facts wrong. The Outer Continental Shelf Moratorium to
which you refer was passed in 1981 and signed by Ronald Reagan.


Because, at the time, Reagan knew that his de-reg would provide ample
petroleum, and he was right.


The
law has to be renewed on a yearly basis, which it has been by every
president and congress since then, including the current one. In
addition, in 1991 Bush Sr. added Leasing Deferrals which automatically
extended it to 2002.


So what's THEIR hangup?

The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil rights to
a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba, which in turn
leases their rights to the Chinese and others.


Which indicates the Republicrat (nee: statist) Congress needs a massive
enema.

None of this information is difficult to find.



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Old April 15th 08, 02:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 14, 6:21 pm, "Matt W. Barrow"
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On Apr 14, 4:09 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Apr 14, 5:02 pm, "Private" wrote:


I just found this on another forum, facts not verified, no commentary
made.


Huge Dakota oil pool could change energy climate debate


Dems also decided that drilling in the Gulf of Mexico would be too
damaging for the environment so they are letting the Chinese do it
instead.


-Robert


You've got your facts wrong. The Outer Continental Shelf Moratorium to
which you refer was passed in 1981 and signed by Ronald Reagan.


Because, at the time, Reagan knew that his de-reg would provide ample
petroleum, and he was right.

The
law has to be renewed on a yearly basis, which it has been by every
president and congress since then, including the current one. In
addition, in 1991 Bush Sr. added Leasing Deferrals which automatically
extended it to 2002.


So what's THEIR hangup?

The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil rights to
a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba, which in turn
leases their rights to the Chinese and others.


Which indicates the Republicrat (nee: statist) Congress needs a massive
enema.


I was merely pointing out some common fallicies about offshore
drilling.

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Old April 15th 08, 04:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil rights to
a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba, which in turn
leases their rights to the Chinese and others.


Which indicates the Republicrat (nee: statist) Congress needs a massive
enema.


I was merely pointing out some common fallicies about offshore
drilling.


Both parties are to blame for the energy mess we're in. Neither party
offers any answers.

We *need* a third political party in the U.S.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old April 15th 08, 04:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:cVUMj.67331$TT4.15571@attbi_s22...
The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil rights to
a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba, which in turn
leases their rights to the Chinese and others.

Which indicates the Republicrat (nee: statist) Congress needs a massive
enema.


I was merely pointing out some common fallicies about offshore
drilling.


Both parties are to blame for the energy mess we're in. Neither party
offers any answers.

We *need* a third political party in the U.S.



We have one. It's the Green Party.


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Old April 15th 08, 06:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

Both parties are to blame for the energy mess we're in. Neither party
offers any answers.

We *need* a third political party in the U.S.


I'm not so sure that would help, until you get rid of the special interest
group lobby on the politicians.
--
Jim in NC


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Old April 16th 08, 03:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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We *need* a third political party in the U.S.

I'm not so sure that would help, until you get rid of the special interest
group lobby on the politicians.


True. Trouble is your "special interest group" might be my "worthy
cause" -- and vice versa...

I think the real solution would be to go back to a part-time Congress, with
legislator's pay insufficient to support a family. This would force
CongressCritters to actually work for a living, and would be a great impetus
to get things done quickly and efficiently -- and to leave Washington after
their duty was done, rather than turning into Kennedy-esque quasi-permanent
fixtures in government.

I know, wake up, Honeck -- you're dreaming!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old April 16th 08, 03:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2008-04-16, Jay Honeck wrote:
I think the real solution would be to go back to a part-time Congress, with
legislator's pay insufficient to support a family. This would force
CongressCritters to actually work for a living, and would be a great impetus
to get things done quickly and efficiently -- and to leave Washington after
their duty was done, rather than turning into Kennedy-esque quasi-permanent
fixtures in government.

I know, wake up, Honeck -- you're dreaming!


Yes, you are. This wouldn't force Congresscritters to work for a living, it
would just restrict the job (even more than it is now) to the independently
wealthy. We don't need more Kennedys, but fewer.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)
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Old April 16th 08, 03:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:cVUMj.67331$TT4.15571@attbi_s22:

The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil
rights to a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba,
which in turn leases their rights to the Chinese and others.

Which indicates the Republicrat (nee: statist) Congress needs a
massive enema.


I was merely pointing out some common fallicies about offshore
drilling.


Both parties are to blame for the energy mess we're in. Neither party
offers any answers.

We *need* a third political party in the U.S.


You re an idiot.


Bertie

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Old April 16th 08, 01:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:cVUMj.67331$TT4.15571@attbi_s22:

The current president also renewed the treaty that cedes oil
rights to a significant portion of the Florida Straits to Cuba,
which in turn leases their rights to the Chinese and others.
Which indicates the Republicrat (nee: statist) Congress needs a
massive enema.
I was merely pointing out some common fallicies about offshore
drilling.

Both parties are to blame for the energy mess we're in. Neither party
offers any answers.

We *need* a third political party in the U.S.


You re an idiot.


Bertie



He can always vote "Communist"... ducking
 




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