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Old December 4th 03, 12:32 AM
BTIZ
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I thought it was those crazy people from Northern Massachusetts..

of course those Frenchman from Lewiston Me would fit too..

"Next time you cut through my yard... you go around!!"

"Throw me down the stairs my coat, outside it is cold."

BT

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Is this Pennsylvania Dutch?

("Throw Momma down the stairs a hat!")


Interesting. This used to be a New Hampshire calumny:

"Throw Father down the stairs his shoes."

Supposedly French-Canadian, in this case.

(I've heard that all the Applachian hillbilly jokes are also current
in Australia, except that the subjects are Tasmanians.)



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Old December 4th 03, 02:48 PM
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Cub Driver wrote in
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Is this Pennsylvania Dutch?
("Throw Momma down the stairs a hat!")


Interesting. This used to be a New Hampshire calumny:
"Throw Father down the stairs his shoes."


We used to collect those, back when I was doing AI and "natural language
parsing" research. Things that people tend to understand without
difficulty, but would drive our best computer programs bonkers. Some
classics that were always used to test parsing:

The old man the boats.

Time flies like an arrow.

The've been working on the problem for 40 years, and still haven't found a
solution.

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Old December 3rd 03, 03:56 PM
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Roger Long om) wrote:

1) Why is nose wheel shimmy usually reported by only two or three club
members and no one else is having a problem?

2) How can you grease a landing and still abuse your nose strut?

3) What is the relationship between trim setting and flat strut syndrome?

4) What has changed in the aviation environment since the nose gears most of
fly were designed?



You piqued my curiosity. Any chance you might answer those questions here
for those of us who don't subscribe?

Additionally, is Aviation Monthly a periodical worth the price of
subscription? I already receive AOPA Pilot, Flying, Plane and Pilot, NTSB
Reporter, and IFR Magazine. Does it contain pertinent articles not found
in any of these magazines?

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Old December 3rd 03, 06:35 PM
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Gee, that kinda puts me on the spot. They pay me money for this stuff. I'm not sure I should be handing it out the back door before the issue even hits the streets

They aren't really secrets though.

Pilot technique has a lot to do with shimmy. Properly overhauled nose gears start solid and get looser. If a bunch of pilots are flying a plane, almost no one will experience shimmy at first, then a few pilots, then more, then everyone. At some point it will go to the shop. It's how people fly that determines where in the cycle they experience shimmy.

You can land gently on the mains and then still rotate nose down fast enough to put the strut seals at risk.

Forgetting to trim in the pattern makes it hard to land at the proper airspeed and makes the plane rotate quickly onto the nosegear at the slightest relaxation of yoke pressure.

Almost every pilot flying was trained in and transitioning from taildraggers when the 172 vintage aircraft were designed. Landing nose high was second nature.

Please, no flames or responses to this quick summary unless you've read the article. I'm only going to discuss on the basis of my full presentation.

I find "Aviation Safety" the best of the mags I read. No ads, solid and to the point stuff. No fluff. I enjoy "Flying" and "AOPA Pilot" as entertainment but A.S. is more interesting and makes me a better pilot.

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Peter R. wrote in message ...
Roger Long om) wrote:

1) Why is nose wheel shimmy usually reported by only two or three club
members and no one else is having a problem?

2) How can you grease a landing and still abuse your nose strut?

3) What is the relationship between trim setting and flat strut syndrome?

4) What has changed in the aviation environment since the nose gears most of
fly were designed?



You piqued my curiosity. Any chance you might answer those questions here
for those of us who don't subscribe?

Additionally, is Aviation Monthly a periodical worth the price of
subscription? I already receive AOPA Pilot, Flying, Plane and Pilot, NTSB
Reporter, and IFR Magazine. Does it contain pertinent articles not found
in any of these magazines?

--
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Old December 3rd 03, 07:03 PM
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Roger Long om) wrote:

snip
I find "Aviation Safety" the best of the mags I read. No ads, solid
and to the point stuff. No fluff. I enjoy "Flying" and "AOPA Pilot"
as entertainment but A.S. is more interesting and makes me a better
pilot.


Thank you for the brief synopsis and thank you for the recommendation. I
will seriously look into purchasing an AS subscription.

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Old December 4th 03, 12:34 AM
BTIZ
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A.S.

??

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Roger Long om) wrote:

snip
I find "Aviation Safety" the best of the mags I read. No ads, solid
and to the point stuff. No fluff. I enjoy "Flying" and "AOPA Pilot"
as entertainment but A.S. is more interesting and makes me a better
pilot.


Thank you for the brief synopsis and thank you for the recommendation. I
will seriously look into purchasing an AS subscription.

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Old December 4th 03, 12:53 AM
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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A.S.

??


"Aviation Safety". As in, "I'm in danger of becoming a regular contributor
to 'Aviation Safety'", which is what Roger wrote when he started this
thread.


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Old December 4th 03, 10:51 PM
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Gee, that kinda puts me on the spot. They pay me money for this stuff. I'm not sure I should be handing it out the back door before the issue even hits the streets


Pshaw, Roger -- I use the participants in this newsgroup as proof-readers.

THEN I sell it to the magazines! :-)

(You folks are good editors...)
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