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Old April 19th 04, 03:43 AM
David Brooks
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Actually, it's another from Winston Churchill (who as I remember
changed political party himself, probably at age 30).


Actually, it's probably not. This from the authoritative Churchill Centre
website http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/...fm?pageid=112:

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not

a
conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." There is no record
of anyone hearing Churchill say this. Paul Addison of Edinburgh University
makes this comment: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed
to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! And would he
have talked so disrespectfully of [his wife] Clemmie, who is generally
thought to have been a lifelong Liberal?"


And remember most people here are using the term Liberal in its modern
American meaning. It seems to have been coined on the spot by GHWB as an
intended insult against Dukakis and adopted by both sides as a shorthand
for, at best, "social democrat". If you want to use the term disparagingly
you also imply it includes fellow-travelers like socialists (again, not
using the contemporary European definition) and anarchists. It's very
confusing when we don't even agree on the lexicon.

The British inter-war Liberal party espoused elements of contemporary social
democracy, to be sure, without the overhead of being in thrall to the
unions. Today, they largely represent the rump of the British, umm, Social
Democratic party.

-- David Brooks


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Old April 17th 04, 03:44 PM
Judah
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You mean there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans besides
which state the accent is from?


"Chicken Bone" wrote in
news.com:

Flightinfo.com asked for pilots political orientation.

Results:

Democrat 22.97%
Republican 57.24%
Ind. 19.79%

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthr...threadid=21699



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Old April 17th 04, 07:43 PM
C J Campbell
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news.com...
Flightinfo.com asked for pilots political orientation.

Results:

Democrat 22.97%
Republican 57.24%
Ind. 19.79%

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthr...threadid=21699


--
Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke


Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned
liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new
clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call themselves
liberals were called aristocrats and Tories.


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Old April 17th 04, 09:21 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned
liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new
clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call themselves
liberals were called aristocrats and Tories.


Bingo. Few people today understand the differences between classic
liberalism and modern liberalism. They are polar opposites.


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Old April 17th 04, 09:38 PM
C J Campbell
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned
liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new
clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call

themselves
liberals were called aristocrats and Tories.


Bingo. Few people today understand the differences between classic
liberalism and modern liberalism. They are polar opposites.


I think it is funny as heck that liberals like to compare JFK's
administration to Camelot. Shows what their real values are.


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Old April 17th 04, 10:20 PM
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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I think it is funny as heck that liberals like to compare JFK's
administration to Camelot. Shows what their real values are.


I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of Jefferson. If
Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by Democrats as a right wing
extremist.


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Old April 17th 04, 10:34 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:
I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of
Jefferson. If Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by
Democrats as a right wing extremist.


He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Free
thinkers are despised by both parties.

". shake off all the fears and servile prejudices, under which weak
minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to
her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
-Thomas Jefferson
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


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Old April 17th 04, 10:24 PM
Dan Luke
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"C J Campbell" wrote:
Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has
abandoned liberal principles.


Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the
same thing WRT conservative principles.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM


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Old April 17th 04, 10:28 PM
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the
same thing WRT conservative principles.


Bingo again.


 




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