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... Actually, it's another from Winston Churchill (who as I remember changed political party himself, probably at age 30). Actually, it's probably not. This from the authoritative Churchill Centre website http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/...fm?pageid=112: "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this. Paul Addison of Edinburgh University makes this comment: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! And would he have talked so disrespectfully of [his wife] Clemmie, who is generally thought to have been a lifelong Liberal?" And remember most people here are using the term Liberal in its modern American meaning. It seems to have been coined on the spot by GHWB as an intended insult against Dukakis and adopted by both sides as a shorthand for, at best, "social democrat". If you want to use the term disparagingly you also imply it includes fellow-travelers like socialists (again, not using the contemporary European definition) and anarchists. It's very confusing when we don't even agree on the lexicon. The British inter-war Liberal party espoused elements of contemporary social democracy, to be sure, without the overhead of being in thrall to the unions. Today, they largely represent the rump of the British, umm, Social Democratic party. -- David Brooks |
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You mean there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans besides
which state the accent is from? "Chicken Bone" wrote in news.com: Flightinfo.com asked for pilots political orientation. Results: Democrat 22.97% Republican 57.24% Ind. 19.79% http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthr...threadid=21699 |
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"Chicken Bone" wrote in message news.com... Flightinfo.com asked for pilots political orientation. Results: Democrat 22.97% Republican 57.24% Ind. 19.79% http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthr...threadid=21699 -- Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call themselves liberals were called aristocrats and Tories. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call themselves liberals were called aristocrats and Tories. Bingo. Few people today understand the differences between classic liberalism and modern liberalism. They are polar opposites. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned liberal principles. Modern liberalism is just monarchy dressed up in new clothes. It was not so long ago that the people who today call themselves liberals were called aristocrats and Tories. Bingo. Few people today understand the differences between classic liberalism and modern liberalism. They are polar opposites. I think it is funny as heck that liberals like to compare JFK's administration to Camelot. Shows what their real values are. |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message ... I think it is funny as heck that liberals like to compare JFK's administration to Camelot. Shows what their real values are. I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of Jefferson. If Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by Democrats as a right wing extremist. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: I think it odd that Democrats call their party the party of Jefferson. If Jefferson was alive today he'd be vilified by Democrats as a right wing extremist. He'd also be vilified by Republicans as a godless libertine. Free thinkers are despised by both parties. ". shake off all the fears and servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"C J Campbell" wrote:
Seems a number of people have forgotten that liberalism has abandoned liberal principles. Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the same thing WRT conservative principles. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message ... Yup, and it's distressing to see conservatism in America is doing the same thing WRT conservative principles. Bingo again. |
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