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UK two-seater fleet
The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder about
the make-up of the UK fleet. A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 101 aircraft ASK21 73 Duo Discus 45 G103 29 Puchacz 27 DG500 22 K7 17 DG1000 10 Blanik L13 9 (plus one L23) Bocian 8 PW-6 3 For information on other types, or more details on the above, go to the G-INFO database at http:/www.caa.co.uk If you want information on antiques such as the T21 or the T49 Capstan you will have to ask the BGA. These old aircraft are not on the main register. Note that not all these gliders are used for club training. Some, notably recent high performance and elderly wooden ones, are privately owned and are used for recreational flying only. This may explain the UK views on training and the grounding of the Blaniks |
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UK two-seater fleet
On Sep 21, 9:23*am, James Thomson
wrote: The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder about the make-up of the UK fleet. * A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 * 101 aircraft ASK21 * 73 Duo Discus * 45 G103 * 29 Puchacz * 27 DG500 * 22 K7 * 17 DG1000 * 10 Blanik L13 * 9 (plus one L23) Bocian * 8 PW-6 * 3 For information on other types, or more details on the above, go to the G-INFO database at http:/www.caa.co.uk If you want information on antiques such as the T21 or the T49 Capstan you will have to ask the BGA. * These old aircraft are not on the main register. Note that not all these gliders are used for club training. * Some, notably recent high performance and elderly wooden ones, are privately owned and are used for recreational flying only. This may explain the UK views on training and the grounding of the Blaniks Does this include or exclude the RAF clubs' gliders? TIA, Frank Whiteley |
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UK two-seater fleet
At 15:54 21 September 2010, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Sep 21, 9:23=A0am, James Thomson wrote: The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder abo= ut the make-up of the UK fleet. =A0 A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 =A0 101 aircraft ASK21 =A0 73 Duo Discus =A0 45 G103 =A0 29 Puchacz =A0 27 DG500 =A0 22 K7 =A0 17 DG1000 =A0 10 Blanik L13 =A0 9 (plus one L23) Bocian =A0 8 PW-6 =A0 3 For information on other types, or more details on the above, go to the G-INFO database at http:/www.caa.co.uk If you want information on antiques such as the T21 or the T49 Capstan yo= u will have to ask the BGA. =A0 These old aircraft are not on the main register. Note that not all these gliders are used for club training. =A0 Some, notably recent high performance and elderly wooden ones, are privately owned and are used for recreational flying only. This may explain the UK views on training and the grounding of the Blanik= s Does this include or exclude the RAF clubs' gliders? TIA, Frank Whiteley It appears to include all the RAFGSA aircraft, these had previously been added to the BGA register. It does not include the G103s etc used by the Air Cadets - they carry military markings. |
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UK two-seater fleet
At 15:54 21 September 2010, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Sep 21, 9:23=A0am, James Thomson wrote: The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder abo= ut the make-up of the UK fleet. =A0 A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 =A0 101 aircraft ASK21 =A0 73 Duo Discus =A0 45 G103 =A0 29 Puchacz =A0 27 DG500 =A0 22 K7 =A0 17 DG1000 =A0 10 Blanik L13 =A0 9 (plus one L23) Bocian =A0 8 PW-6 =A0 3 For information on other types, or more details on the above, go to the G-INFO database at http:/www.caa.co.uk If you want information on antiques such as the T21 or the T49 Capstan yo= u will have to ask the BGA. =A0 These old aircraft are not on the main register. Note that not all these gliders are used for club training. =A0 Some, notably recent high performance and elderly wooden ones, are privately owned and are used for recreational flying only. This may explain the UK views on training and the grounding of the Blanik= s Does this include or exclude the RAF clubs' gliders? TIA, Frank Whiteley It includes gliders used by the Royal Air Force Gliding and Soaring Association but does not include approx 90 Grob 103 Acros operated by the RAF for the Air Cadets. The latter are outside the civil register entirely. The main 2 seat gliders used for training in the UK a ASK21 Grob 103 ASK13 Puchacz the others mentioned above are used and in addition there are a few Slingsby T53 (YS53) tin birds in private hands. As far as the UK is concerned the loss of the Blanik is not a problem. I have heard the view expressed over here, by those who should know, that the chances of a fix for the Blanik being approved are pretty remote. |
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UK two-seater fleet
On Sep 22, 3:23*am, James Thomson
wrote: The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder about the make-up of the UK fleet. * A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 * 101 aircraft ASK21 * 73 Duo Discus * 45 G103 * 29 Puchacz * 27 DG500 * 22 K7 * 17 DG1000 * 10 Blanik L13 * 9 (plus one L23) Bocian * 8 PW-6 * 3 NZ looks a bit different: Blanik: 11 Grob G103(A): 10 Duo Discus: 11 ASH25: 8 Grob Twin Astir: 7 ASK13: 6 K7: 5 Janus: 5 DG-1000: 3 Puchacz: 3 ASK21: 2 PW-6: 2 Stemme: 2 Grob G109: 2 DG500: 1 By far the most numerous are the various flavours of Grobs, followed by Blanik and Duo. A lot (all?) of the Duos are privately owned or used for commercial rides not training. The DG1000s are all club owned and used for training, as of course are most or all of the K7, ASK13, Blanik and Grobs. |
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On Sep 21, 7:06*pm, Bruce Hoult wrote:
On Sep 22, 3:23*am, James Thomson wrote: The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder about the make-up of the UK fleet. * A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 * 101 aircraft ASK21 * 73 Duo Discus * 45 G103 * 29 Puchacz * 27 DG500 * 22 K7 * 17 DG1000 * 10 Blanik L13 * 9 (plus one L23) Bocian * 8 PW-6 * 3 NZ looks a bit different: Blanik: 11 Grob G103(A): 10 Duo Discus: 11 ASH25: 8 Grob Twin Astir: 7 ASK13: 6 K7: 5 Janus: 5 DG-1000: 3 Puchacz: 3 ASK21: 2 PW-6: 2 Stemme: 2 Grob G109: 2 DG500: 1 By far the most numerous are the various flavours of Grobs, followed by Blanik and Duo. A lot (all?) of the Duos are privately owned or used for commercial rides not training. The DG1000s are all club owned and used for training, as of course are most or all of the K7, ASK13, Blanik and Grobs. I believe the largest single fleet of Duo in the world is at Glide Omarama (6 according to their web site and add in a ASH-25 and other more mundane gliders) and I'd count all those as for training - advanced XC not primary, but its training. Darryl |
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Add a Nimbus 3d to the list. To be used for advanced X/C traing Colin |
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UK two-seater fleet
On 22/09/2010 01:23, James Thomson wrote:
The threads on the Blanik AD and Club Training Gliders made me wonder about the make-up of the UK fleet. A quick search of the UK civil register produced the following numbers: ASK13 101 aircraft ASK21 73 Duo Discus 45 G103 29 Puchacz 27 DG500 22 K7 17 DG1000 10 Blanik L13 9 (plus one L23) Bocian 8 PW-6 3 This may explain the UK views on training and the grounding of the Blaniks The Oz figures, from a similar quick look a Blanik 60 Grob 103 27 IS-28 21 K7 15 K21 15 Puchacz 12 Janus 12 Duo Discus 12 K13 10 KR-03 6 Bocian 6 Orion 4 Bergfalke 4 DG-1000 3 PW-6 2 SGU 2-22 1 This may explain our view about the grounding of Blaniks. Few of the K7s, Bocian and Duo are used for training. GC |
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