I think I know why so many Cirrus' crash

"Roger" wrote in message
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I'd take the Columbia 400 any day over the SR-22

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Hi Roger,

I'd like one too.
But I'd settle for Dibs on the Deb ;-)

Marty

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 02:05:09 GMT, Ken Reed wrote:

Four of the six are flying again (the fifth deployment just
occurred this weekend).

Do you have more details on the restoration process? Earlier reports
indicated that using the chute would total the aircraft.

True. It turns out that most can be made airworthy again without
tremendous expense.

Expense when tied to an airplane is *relative*.

When you are purchasing 400 to 450 thousand dollar airplanes, 40 to 60
thousand to fix one after a chute deployment is not bad. Once they
are 20 plus years old that is a different kettle of fish.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Ken Reed

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:08:57 -0600, "Marty"
wrote:


"Roger" wrote in message
.. .
---SNIP---

I'd take the Columbia 400 any day over the SR-22

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


Hi Roger,

I'd like one too.
But I'd settle for Dibs on the Deb ;-)

For a slightly exorbinate price I'll even deliver in the lower 48, but
I'll probably be flying the Deb as long as I have a license unless I
get the G-III finished before I'm too old to fly.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Marty

I'm not taking the time to read the many responses to your inflammatory post. I
will cut to the chase and declare that you're an idiot.. Or alternatively,
merely insanely jealous of those folks that are fortunate enough to be able to
fly Cirrus aircraft.

OK, now that I've set your underwear on fire, please explain how you can assert
that because you had a run-in with a single pilot that happened to be flying a
Cirrus, that Cirri are prone to crashing and/or generally bad behavior. Had he
been flying a 172 or a PA28 or a Katana or a Learjet or Pilatus, would you've
posted that all pilots of that type are crash-prone? I think not.

There is an interesting trend I'm seeing, that at least some pilots assume that
anyone flying a Cirrus must be rich and under-trained. Trust me, there are rich
folks flying ALL types of aircraft, and some of them are as competent as you or
me - or more - and some are less-so. It has nothing to do with the aircraft
type.

Disclaimer: I have a few SR20 hours, and I like the aircraft - in fact I think
it's one of the best things to happen to GA in many years. I like 172SPs almost
as much. I like Pilatus PC12s much more 8^) . But your post just irks the ****
out of me. It's a classic case of stereotyping due to ignorance, or envy,
or... whatever you're feeling.

Get over that incident and keep an eye out for the next idiot making a
straight-in approach, 15 miles out (perhaps for a practice instrument
approach?), for a very busy runway. He just might be flying your favorite
airplane.

Dave Blevins



On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:16:05 GMT, (Ron Lee) wrote:

Coming back from KCOS to 00V today several aircraft were in the
pattern for runway 33 and some people wanted runway 15 since the winds
were at the changeover point. With one or two at the runup area for
runway 15 I just went east until the fiasco was sorted out (I made
several position reports since people were all over).

Once that happened I announced my intentions (enter left downwind for
15) about 7-8 miles out and not long after that a Cirrus announced he
was 10 miles out. When I was on left downwind the Cirrus pilot
broadcast that he was on about 4 mile base for 15. I "assumed" he
meant downwind. Then when I was about to turn base he called out four
mile FINAL for 15. I saw a plane in that area and turned base
(calling it out by radio of course)

He asked if I was cutting in front of him and I stated "Looks like
it."

Soon thereafter I decided that I was too fast so went around then when
on downwind again stated that his (Cirrus "pilot") pattern entry was
bad. His response was "I called it out." I told him that it was not
good when other planes are using a standard pattern. Had he been the
only one around I would not have cared.

Thus my assessment is that Cirrus pilots have too much money and
inadequate pilot skills/common sense. Other fatal crashes just add to
this perception.

Ron Lee