Can the airport ban bicycles?

On Aug 28, 3:11 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
What FARs cover hangar leases?

It's called "Grant Assurance 29". Here ya go:

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...nt_assurances/...

Specifically Grant Assurance #29 says this:

Doesn't that assume that the hangers will build with AIF?

-Robert

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Tue 28 Aug 2007 04:20:02p, Ross
wrote:

I have been on the local airport board off and on for years. We
originally had situations where the cheap storage was occurring. We
started eviction notices, when he finally left. You must have an
airworthy aircraft or be progressively working on a plane. Other
things can be kept in the hangars as long as they comply with the fire
marshall such as oil, small amounts of solvents, but I would think a
55 gal drum of mogas would be not be welcomed. I leave my car in the
hangar when going cross country. I have my fake Christmas tree there.
But, I keep mine rather clean.

Yeah, shame on us for thinking that we can keep a 55 gallon drum of fuel in
our hangar with 50-100 gallons of fuel that is already in our wing tanks.
One could argue that the 55 gallon drum is probably made from stronger
material than the tanks on our aircraft. Hell, it's probably even safer
since it doesn't have gaskets on the bottom that leak fuel.

"It's not a bicycle," your honor, "it's an experimental human-powered
aircraft. I'm working on the wing design and plan to attach them soon." g

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:


The airport commission is using this as justification for the ban,
since allowing the hangars to be used to "store" stuff would be a
"change or alteration in the facilities" and put our FAA grant money
at stake.

NOT allowing this stuff would be a change. People have been using
hangars to store stuff since the beginning...

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a CYA move on the owner's part to
restrict any other "vehicles" being "parked" there and the hangar
becoming a "garage" for insurance purposes.

The "owners" are "We the People" -- it's a municipal airport hangar.

I believe the original intent of the clause(s) was to prevent the use
of hangars as non-aircraft storage units. The current commission,
however, is taking a very rigid reading of the lease, and has
announced a ban on ANYTHING not directly related to aviation --
including bicycles, of all things.

Our airport support group, "Friends of Iowa City Airport", is
absolutely abuzz with comments and crossfire, from commissioners and
tenants. It's actually kind of fun, but the ramifications are too
serious to really enjoy it.

Honestly, just when you thought you had seen everything...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Wait until the Oregon Green Peace folks find out someone, anyone, banned
a bicycle, anywhere.

Al G

Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?

It is if you sign it.

Matt

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)


So you can't park your car in your hangar while you're flying your airplane?

You can't at ELM where my airplane was formerly based. The cars had to
be parked outside the hangar which was a real pain when lots of folks
were out flying.

Matt

Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)
So you can't park your car in your hangar while you're flying your airplane?

No, they specifically okay that practice in the lease. But bikes,
cars, motorcycles, and anything "non-aeronautical" is banned
(according to their reading of the rules) at all other times -- even
if there is ample room around the aircraft.

In my opinion, this is a gross mis-reading of the FARs, which were put
in place to make sure that airport hangars were not used as cheap
storage units for boats and other non-aircraft.

What FAR addresses hangars?

Matt

Jay Honeck wrote:
What FARs cover hangar leases?

It's called "Grant Assurance 29". Here ya go:

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...assurances.pdf

Specifically Grant Assurance #29 says this:

I don't think this is an FAR though.

Matt

ROF

Paint "Crash Boat" on side of boat and use it to rescue pilots that go
down in the water.

Write a procedures manual to cover operation of "Crash Boat".

Big John
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:04:05 +0200 (CEST), "Really-Old-Fart"
wrote:

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Tue 28 Aug 2007 03:17:42p, Jay Honeck
wrote:

In my opinion, this is a gross mis-reading of the FARs, which were put
in place to make sure that airport hangars were not used as cheap
storage units for boats and other non-aircraft.

I store my boat, utility trailer, ATV, and beer fridge in my hangar at my
current airport. The ATV acts as an aircraft tug, so technically it is
aviation related. The beer fridge is for after flight refreshments, so I
guess it is aviation related also. Give me a bit of time and I can
probably come up with an aviation related justification for the boat and
utility trailer also.