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Does nobody want an adsb-in receiver and traffic display?
Space is limited and Flarmview 2 does much of traffic display. Roy |
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On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:39:54 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Powerflarm absolutely outputs ADSB 1090ES contacts. Whether your display shows them is up to it. Mine does. It does NOT display the funky USA only UAT contacts (unless they are rebroadcast as 1090ES). The radio interface provided by the ACD-57 is superb, much better than either the Becker or the TQ which it controls remotely. And much better than a Trig. You really want the Air Avionics COM radio, if only they could get it shipping. It will have one feature none of the others do: the Say Again function. |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 8:07:37 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:39:54 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Powerflarm absolutely outputs ADSB 1090ES contacts. Whether your display shows them is up to it. Mine does. It does NOT display the funky USA only UAT contacts (unless they are rebroadcast as 1090ES). The radio interface provided by the ACD-57 is superb, much better than either the Becker or the TQ which it controls remotely. And much better than a Trig. You really want the Air Avionics COM radio, if only they could get it shipping. It will have one feature none of the others do: the Say Again function. Air Avionics has really dropped the ball on getting their radio certified. It will not be available this year, making it unlikely I could get it in time to use it in my 31Mi. https://www.air-avionics.com/?page_id=1204 Tom |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:31:30 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 8:07:37 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote: On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:39:54 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Powerflarm absolutely outputs ADSB 1090ES contacts. Whether your display shows them is up to it. Mine does. It does NOT display the funky USA only UAT contacts (unless they are rebroadcast as 1090ES). The radio interface provided by the ACD-57 is superb, much better than either the Becker or the TQ which it controls remotely. And much better than a Trig. You really want the Air Avionics COM radio, if only they could get it shipping. It will have one feature none of the others do: the Say Again function. Air Avionics has really dropped the ball on getting their radio certified.. It will not be available this year, making it unlikely I could get it in time to use it in my 31Mi. https://www.air-avionics.com/?page_id=1204 Tom Tom, http://www.craggyaero.com/Drawings/ASH31Panel.JPG This is a picture of one of my Customers Panels. The only thing I would change is replace the Winter Altimeter with an Air-Avionis Air Control Display Altimeter. Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 10:46:29 AM UTC-7, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:31:30 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote: On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 8:07:37 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote: On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:39:54 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Powerflarm absolutely outputs ADSB 1090ES contacts. Whether your display shows them is up to it. Mine does. It does NOT display the funky USA only UAT contacts (unless they are rebroadcast as 1090ES). The radio interface provided by the ACD-57 is superb, much better than either the Becker or the TQ which it controls remotely. And much better than a Trig. You really want the Air Avionics COM radio, if only they could get it shipping. It will have one feature none of the others do: the Say Again function. Air Avionics has really dropped the ball on getting their radio certified. It will not be available this year, making it unlikely I could get it in time to use it in my 31Mi. https://www.air-avionics.com/?page_id=1204 Tom Tom, http://www.craggyaero.com/Drawings/ASH31Panel.JPG This is a picture of one of my Customers Panels. The only thing I would change is replace the Winter Altimeter with an Air-Avionis Air Control Display Altimeter. Richard www.craggyaero.com What glider is this in? Is it the extra-height panel. Tom |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:31:30 AM UTC-7, 2G wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 8:07:37 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote: On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:39:54 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Powerflarm absolutely outputs ADSB 1090ES contacts. Whether your display shows them is up to it. Mine does. It does NOT display the funky USA only UAT contacts (unless they are rebroadcast as 1090ES). The radio interface provided by the ACD-57 is superb, much better than either the Becker or the TQ which it controls remotely. And much better than a Trig. You really want the Air Avionics COM radio, if only they could get it shipping. It will have one feature none of the others do: the Say Again function. Air Avionics has really dropped the ball on getting their radio certified.. It will not be available this year, making it unlikely I could get it in time to use it in my 31Mi. https://www.air-avionics.com/?page_id=1204 Tom The Problems that Air-Avionics has with the Air-Control Display a The Largest court or field or market is in Europe. Trig TT22 Mode S, TN72 ADS-B, TY91 Transceiver the most popular for Sailplanes in the US as yet will not cooperate. Becker Transponders do not have ADS-b compliance in the USA Garrecht Transponder do not have ADS-B compliance in the USA Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 8:07:37 AM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
[snip] Powerflarm absolutely outputs ADSB 1090ES contacts. Whether your display shows them is up to it. Mine does. It does NOT display the funky USA only UAT contacts (unless they are rebroadcast as 1090ES). Ah last sentence there is not correct. The PowerFLARM does not receive ADS-R data, so even if a UAT-Out target is rebroadcast you will not see it via a PowerFLARM. What display you use is irrelevent. And this applies wether you have ADS-B Out (including TABS) to make your glider an ADS-B ground services client or that ADS-R service is being provided for some other nearby aircraft. The PowerFLARM just does not understand ADS-R messages. |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 3:39:54 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Compasses are part of the minimum mandatory equipment lists for German built and JS engine-equipped gliders and are required for them (unnecessarily IMHO) in EASA land where I live. Not so for pure gliders. |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 11:06:43 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 3:39:54 PM UTC+1, wrote: On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 6:02:53 PM UTC-7, 2G wrote: As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue). Tom Personally I'd want a dedicated traffic display to avoid cluttering up my moving map, and I'd choose adsb-in traffic, not flarm. I've never been able to find out if flarm displays can display adsb-traffic. About a compass requirement: 91.205 does list required instruments for powered civil aircraft, but there are no requirements (other than whatever the POH requires) for gliders, and motorgliders are gliders. Compasses are part of the minimum mandatory equipment lists for German built and JS engine-equipped gliders and are required for them (unnecessarily IMHO) in EASA land where I live. Not so for pure gliders. The turning/acceleration errors in mechanical compasses drive me crazy in gliders, but I've found the electronic compass sold by LXNAV with their 9000 systems is great. I also find their electronic altimeter is much more accurate than a small Winter altimeter. So there are two panel holes to be saved, if you are experimental. |
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